Pope Francis And The Emerging One World Religion

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Is Pope Francis taking steps that are laying the groundwork for the emergence of a one world religion?  If that question sounds quite bizarre to you, I urge you to read the rest of this article.  We live at a time when globalization is advancing rapidly.  The global economy is more integrated than it has ever been before, and with each passing year new economic treaties tie us even more closely together.  And “global governance” (as the elite like to call it) is also steadily gaining ground.  Through a whole host of global institutions such as the United Nations, the World Bank, the IMF and the Bank for International Settlements, global governments are working together to a degree that is unprecedented.  Well, what about religion?  Is there evidence that we are also witnessing the globalization of religion?  Well, yes there is.  In fact, it appears that Pope Francis intends to lead the way.

Since he has been Pope, Francis has expressed a desire for unity with the Eastern Orthodox, the Anglicans, and many other major Protestant denominations.  But more than a few eyebrows were raised when he recently sent a video message to Kenneth Copeland and his congregation.  At the time that the video message was played to the congregation, one speaker declared that “Luther’s protest is over”

“The Catholic and Charismatic Renewal is the hope of the Church,” exclaims Anglican Episcopal Bishop Tony Palmer, before a group of cheering followers at the Kenneth Copeland Ministries.   Palmer said those words are from the Vatican. Before playing the video message from Pope Francis to Kenneth Copeland, Palmer told the crowd,  “When my wife saw that she could be Catholic, and Charismatic, and Evangelical, and Pentecostal, and it was absolutely accepted in the Catholic Church, she said that she would like to reconnect her roots with the Catholic culture. So she did.”

The crowd cheered, as he continued, “Brothers and sisters, Luther’s protest is over. Is yours?”

Even Kenneth Copeland finds this development incredible: Said Copeland, “Heaven is thrilled over this…You know what is so thrilling to me? When we went into the ministry 47 years ago, this was impossible.”

You can see video from this conference right here.

So is Luther’s protest really over?

During the Council of Trent, the Catholics condemned to hell anyone that believes in salvation through faith in Jesus alone.  This is a direct quote from the Council of Trent…

“If any one saith, that by faith alone the impious is justified; in such wise as to mean, that nothing else is required to co-operate in order to the obtaining the grace of Justification, and that it is not in any way necessary, that he be prepared and disposed by the movement of his own will; let him be anathema

The Catholics have never renounced that stand.  Instead, it has been reaffirmed many times over the years.

If Pope Francis really did want to reach out to Protestants, he should start by reversing the Council of Trent on this.  As it stands, it is official Catholic doctrine that all Protestants are anathema.

But apparently that is not going to stop many Protestants from reuniting with Rome and declaring Francis to be “their Pope”.

Meanwhile, Pope Francis has also been aggressively courting Muslims.  The following quote from Pope Francis comes from remarks that he made during his very first ecumenical meeting

I then greet and cordially thank you all, dear friends belonging to other religious traditions; first of all the Muslims, who worship the one God, living and merciful, and call upon Him in prayer, and all of you. I really appreciate your presence: in it I see a tangible sign of the will to grow in mutual esteem and cooperation for the common good of humanity.

The Catholic Church is aware of the importance of promoting friendship and respect between men and women of different religious traditions – I wish to repeat this: promoting friendship and respect between men and women of different religious traditions – it also attests the valuable work that the Pontifical Council for interreligious dialogue performs.

Did you catch that?

Apparently Pope Francis believes that Catholics and Muslims worship the same God.

More recently, Francis made the following statement about Muslims…

“We must never forget that they ‘profess to hold the faith of Abraham, and together with us they adore the one, merciful God, who will judge humanity on the last day.’”


By making this statement, Pope Francis is rejecting another of the most fundamental doctrines of the Christian faith.

You see, Christians believe that Jesus Christ is God.

Muslims hate this doctrine and say that there is no god but Allah.

So how in the world can Christians and Muslims worship the same God?

The only way that you could say this is if you deny the deity of Jesus Christ.

For much more on why “Allah” and the God of Christianity are not the same, please see this article.

Of course when it comes to other religions, Francis is not just reaching out to the Muslims.  During the same ecumenical meeting that I referenced above, he made it a point to say that he feels “close” to those that belong “to any religious tradition”…

In this, we feel close even to all those men and women who, whilst not recognizing themselves belonging to any religious tradition, feel themselves nevertheless to be in search of truth, goodness and beauty, this truth, goodness and beauty of God, and who are our precious allies in efforts to defend the dignity of man, in building a peaceful coexistence among peoples and in guarding Creation carefully.

And Francis really raised some eyebrows when he made the following statement about atheists

“The Lord created us in His image and likeness, and we are the image of the Lord, and He does good and all of us have this commandment at heart: do good and do not do evil. All of us. ‘But, Father, this is not Catholic! He cannot do good.’ Yes, he can… The Lord has redeemed all of us, all of us, with the Blood of Christ: all of us, not just Catholics. Everyone! ‘Father, the atheists?’ Even the atheists. Everyone!.. We must meet one another doing good. ‘But I don’t believe, Father, I am an atheist!’ But do good: we will meet one another there.”

There was a lot of debate about what Francis meant by that, and the Vatican issued a statement declaring that Catholic doctrine on these matters had not changed, but without a doubt a lot of people were troubled by this.

In addition, a lot of people were really troubled when the Vatican offered “indulgences” to those that would follow Pope Francis on Twitter.  The following is an excerpt from an article that appeared in the Telegraph

Salvation – or at least a shorter stay in Purgatory – might now be only a tweet away with news that Pope Francis is to offer “indulgences” – remissions for temporary punishment – to the faithful who follow him on the social media site.

Around 1.5 million are expected to flock to Rio de Janeiro to celebrate World Youth Day with the Argentine pontiff later this month. But for those who can’t make it to Brazil,  forgiveness may be available to contrite sinners who follow Francis’s progress via their TV screen or social networks.

The Sacred Apostolic Penitentiary, the Vatican court that rules on the forgiveness of sins, has said that indulgences may be given to those who follow the “rites and pious exercises” of the event on television, radio and through social media.

So what does Pope Francis actually believe?

That is a very good question.

His beliefs do not appear to be very consistent at all.  He just seems to have an overwhelming desire to “unite” with everyone out there that has any kind of religious faith.

But we do know one kind of people that he does not like.  He does not like “ideological Christians” that take their faith very seriously

“In ideologies there is not Jesus: in his tenderness, his love, his meekness. And ideologies are rigid, always. Of every sign: rigid. And when a Christian becomes a disciple of the ideology, he has lost the faith: he is no longer a disciple of Jesus, he is a disciple of this attitude of thought… For this reason Jesus said to them: ‘You have taken away the key of knowledge.’ The knowledge of Jesus is transformed into an ideological and also moralistic knowledge, because these close the door with many requirements. The faith becomes ideology and ideology frightens, ideology chases away the people, distances, distances the people and distances of the Church of the people. But it is a serious illness, this of ideological Christians. It is an illness, but it is not new, eh?”

So what is going to come of all this?

It will be very interesting to watch.

It is also interesting to note that there is a 900-year-old prophecy that seems to indicate that Pope Francis could be the last Pope.  If that prophecy is accurate, then we could very well be living at a time when we will see the emergence of a one world religion.

Just a few short decades ago, a one world religion would have been absolutely unthinkable.

But now the pieces are starting to come together, and it will be very interesting to see what happens next.

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  • K

    Jesus answered, “I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me. John 14:6 No, I do not think everyone is praying to the same God.

    • seth

      Only the bible and a critical mind is the true church, not some organised subverted religion.

      • Proteios

        Christ didn’t write a Bible. He made a Church. The same Church that decided what comprises our Bible.

        • errorsofrussia

          Yes. The Bible came out of the Roman Catholic Church and to this day the RCC maintains the full books of the Bible approved in the early centuries of the Church i.e. Maccabbees, etc.

          • Joris Heise

            The Bible did not “come out of the Roman Catholic Church.” It came out of the Jewish group who became Christians. True, the Council of Trent in the 1500s decided on a “canon” of books, but Christians generally accepted these books and not others, although people wrote many, many similar books (cf. the Dead Sea scrolls, the Gnostic gospels, the many midrashim of Christians [e.g., Jesus making his clay birds fly away]).

          • errorsofrussia

            The RCC is the fulfillment through Jesus Christ of the Jewish religion of the Old Testament.

          • Synagogue Of Satan

            The RCC is apostate, corrupt and follows NOT Jesus Christ. They say one is absolved and forgiven thru Mary. Blasphemy!

          • errorsofrussia

            No they don’t. Forgiveness of sins takes place thru the Sacrament of Confession – the Holy Orders that were given by Christ himself to the Apostles and handed down thru the Bishops. Mary is Intercessor and Advocate for sinners and leads souls to Christ.

          • Terry

            The titles Co-Redemptrix, Mediatrix, and Advocate raise
            serious concerns, as they contradict the plainest teachings of
            Scripture. The Bible teaches that there is one Redeemer,
            Mediator, and Advocate, and that is Jesus the Messiah.

            My little children, these things write I unto you, that ye sin not. And
            if any man sin, we have an advocate with the Father, Jesus Christ the
            righteous (1 John 2:1).

            For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus (1 Timothy 2:5)

            Blessed be the Lord God of Israel; for he hath visited and redeemed his people (Luke 1:68).

            Oh and as far as forgiveness of sins, it is blasphemy for men to take upon themselves the power to forgive sins (see Mark 2:7). That power rests with the Messiah and the Messiah alone.

        • Synagogue Of Satan

          The bible tells us to REMOVE ourselves from the church, the whore of babylon, so He can reveal Himself to us. The churches, organized religion is corrupt. ONLY a personal relationship with Jesus Christ and study of the word of God with a friend is all that is necessary. Where 2 or more are gathered.

      • DB

        You can’t believe in the Bible and have a critical thinking mind. Faith requires the abandonment of reason, logic, and critical thinking.

        • whatgives?

          That’s an odd statement. I know several people who came to Christ using logic, reason, and critical thinking skills. Try it.

        • Terry Lee Osborne

          As a believer I love this quote. “I do not feel obligated to believe that the same God who has endowed us with sense, reasons, and intellect has intended us to forgo their use.” Galileo.

    • Robert C. Laity

      allah is NOT God. God is God.

      • K

        I used that phrase, to counter the we worship the same God comment. I am well aware there is only one. The path this Pope is trying to follow, is everyone is right, just with minor differences. I think that would be referred to as the broad path. We have been warned against the broad path.

      • Michael Milthorpe

        Allah means God in Arabic, dum bass. I guess you think that the bible was originally written in english too? laughable… I guess you fail to realize there are millions of Christian Arabs, who call God, Allah

        • sanctified

          Allah is a moon god; hence, the crescent moon and stars on their flags, etc.

          • Michael Milthorpe

            no, that is according to a claim made only by evangelical Christians… who, like you, attempt to state your monotheistic God is different, despite the fact that both religions fed off one another. Nice try you fool. Must I repeat? That Muslims pronounce Allah as God in English, as in English Christians would pronounce God as Allah in Arabic.

          • Melisa Pendley

            Again…you are mistaken sir. The religious battle started when Abraham had an illegitimate son with his handmaiden Hagar. God/father of Jesus/part of the Holy Trinity…had promised Abraham a son-Isaac. God told Abraham to send Hagar and Ismael away. They were given plenty…as Ismael is the father of all Arab nations. However, the blessing of the chosen people (the Jewish people) was given to Isaac with a prophecy that Ishmael would be a wild man, everyone’s hand against him, and he will live in hostility towards his brothers’…(Genesis 16:12). Since that time Israel (Isaac’s descendants) have always been at war/odds with the Arab nations. Covenant was with Israel. Perhaps you should get the story straight before you call someone a fool!

          • Michael Milthorpe

            Judaism, Christianity, and Islam all worship the same monotheistic God, yet share minor differences over Jesus, Muhammad, etc. They are the Abrahamic faiths. And the land now known as Israel was NOT always at war.. In fact the region experienced peace for hundreds of years. It was not until the mass displacement, apartheid, and ethnic cleansing/genocide of the Palestinians that the conflict again sparked within the region. Perhaps you should pick up a history book or two rather than simply quoting a Bible. Your entire comment has ethnocentric, extremist, intollerant, radical, finatic, and crazy written all over it. You sound no different from a member of the ISIS. Especially the way you refer to Jews as the “chosen ones.” That kind of attitude, belief system, and set of values is disgusting. You truly are a woman with a primitive mind if you believe there is a chosen peoples.

          • Melisa Pendley

            I did get my facts from the Bible sir, and used no insults or name calling in the process so I fail to see how that is radical, fanatical, extemist or intolerant. You have a different faith or none at all…makes no difference to me. I know where the difference lies. It is NOT the same God and you can ask most Muslims, Christians or Jewish people that and all of them will tell you the same thing. The word ‘Christianity’ is derived from ‘Christ’…meaning a follower of Christ. As a follower of Christ I believe the Bible plainly tells us that the Jews are Gods chosen people and the Gentiles/Us are adopted into that family as believers in Christ. That is my faith. Muslims worshiped different gods until Mohammed had his ‘vision’ from Allah and the word itself means moon god. As far as history…I was speaking of the Muslim nations being at constant war with one another, Israel or the Western World, and that my friend is a fact!

          • Michael Milthorpe

            First of all, yes it is the same GOD. GOD means creator. Same God but different prophits and very minor different beliefs. Muslims WERE Christians and Jews. Where on Earth are you getting your facts from? That trash “chosen ones” you believe in is the basis for justifying the domination and oppression of other cultures. How dare you think there are specific humans who are better than others. Clearly if your faith does not teach equality it is no faith that one should follow. That “chosen one” garbage is also used extensively as an excuse to oppress Palestinians every single day, occupy their land, live in the homes, and cleanse their population. Terrorism today exists today because of your supremist-type ideology. Muslims have only been at war with the West for the last 100 years BECAUSE THE WEST IS OCCUPYING their land, stealing their resources, and has murdered more than one million civilians in Iraq and Afghanistan alone. Colonization devestated the Middle East. Do you know what the calaphite is? Or the Ottoman Empire? Muslims lived peacefully for hundreds of years despite the barbaric invasions conducted by Europe.

          • Synagogue Of Satan

            I think what she means is OUR God, is Jesus, YOUR God does not represent Jesus THE Christ. Only the “word” God is the same, not what it represents. I am with you on “chosen ones” as that was the previous covenant up until they rejected Jesus Christ, NOW Judaism is anti christ. Before the arrival of Jesus, Judaism WAS Christianity, NOW it is anti christ as they do not accept Jesus as God. So now their beliefs have become anti christ. Jesus said, “Sons of their father, the devil. Hypocrites, dead bones, with the spirit of the anti christ upon them. Speaking of the Pharisees and their hypocritical oral law that is heresy, blasphemy, wrong.

          • Michael Milthorpe
          • Synagogue Of Satan

            I support all you say except that Jews are Gods chosen ones. They WERE the chosen ones until they failed to uphold God’s covenant, then came a NEW covenant where so long as we accept Christ as our personal Lord and Savior, do we ALL become God’s chosen people, Jews Inwardly. We are ALL the chosen people, grafted to the vine thru the blood of Christ. The ONLY way any remaining Jews (there are not many true israelites remaining, rather those that CALL themselves Jew, but are fake, belonging to the Synagogue Of Satan) get into Heaven is of course thru Jesus The Christ, the light, the truth, the ONLY way.

          • Melisa Pendley

            Agreed…you say grafted in…which is what the Bible said…I called it adopted…either way we are his children and agreed, if a Jewish person does not accept Jesus as Lord they are not going to make it to heaven. One way…the way, the truth and the light=Jesus

          • Annette Calkins

            I want you to know that I support your comments and respect you for the cordial way you are sharing. The other poster seems to be filled with hatred. I would never want to be a part of his religion, as I don’t want hate in my heart

          • Melisa Pendley

            Thank-you for the kindness Annette and may God bless you and yours!

          • Joris Heise

            It is plain ignorance to say that ‘allah is a moon God. IT IS ARABIC, PURE AND SIMPLE.

          • Sharee Hill

            speaking as someone who was muslim for 5 years sanctified is right, allah is a moon god, another 1 of satans deceptions-look it up. i spoke arabic, allah does not mean God. there is alot more to this story and the prophet muhammad than you know and info about who allah is is everywhere and easily found.

          • Joris Heise

            You certainly did not learn that “allah” is a moon god from Islam or comparative religion. I am a scholar, and the info I get is from historical, literary, Arabic, comparative religions, various Semitic languages, etc. Once convinced that Islam worships a moon god–which is nuts–no one will be able to convince you otherwise. The religion worships the Creator of the world, just like Judaism and its child, Christianity. It is even weird to hear in today’s world this long-discredited falsehood, and what your sources are or must be, I fear, are conspiracists, enemies of Islam, etc.–people who find Satan under every rock.

          • Terry

            And Jesus answered and said unto them, Take heed that no man deceive you. For many shall come in my name, saying, I am Christ; and shall deceive many. Mat 24:4-5

            And many false prophets shall rise, and shall deceive many.Mat 24:11

            For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect. Mat 24:24

            And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world:Rev 12:9

            As we can see, the entire world has been subjected to a certain deception. Therefore, to say that something is false simply because it is not generally accepted or has been labeled a “conspiracy” is a fools move. In my opinion, this is the very evidence of a deception because it demonstrates an individuals unwillingness to search out the truth wherever it may lead them. Only reverting to the mindset of the masses and those who ultimately control them is the easiest way down this path.

            You see, the term “God” translated from the Hebrew “‘elohiym”, the Greek “theos” and the Aramaic “‘elahh” in the Holy Scriptures, simply means “the power” or “powers” therefore can be attributed to more than just the creator of the universe. We can see this in such books as the Book of Daniel when Belshazzar gave praise to the gods (‘elahh) of gold, and of silver, of brass, of iron, of wood, and of stone or in the Book of Jeremiah “And go not after other gods (‘elohiym) to serve them.” When referring to the creator of the universe you will see the Scriptures say “YHWH your Elohim” or simply “your Elohim” , and this is always specifically addressing the chosen people of Israel or one of Israel’s Prophets or patriarchs. It is all about context. Any “god” contrary to “our” God is in fact not our God and therefore false, as is the case with Islam’s “god”. Claiming that they are one and the same simply because Islam can trace its origins back to Abraham via his son Ishmael or because both “god” and “allah” mean the same thing is quite honestly laughable. Ishmael’s descendants bound themselves to Esau, who sold his birthright and inheritance and because of such, were never part of the promise via bloodline. Their only way back (or anyone’s way back for that matter) is through the Messiah of Israel, who is commonly known as Jesus Christ.

          • Joris Heise

            Your compassion and scholarship seems–to my blowhard, pompous mind–somewhat un-Jesus-like. A scripture scholar, I am always suspicious of number scripture quotations, as though you are “proving” something. I tend to use and follow the spirit of Scripture, and avoid specific references. We all select bible segments that we honor more than others…mine just tend to be far more the compassion, meekness and love of the Sermon on the Mount. Those who emphasize that beautiful, insightful and colorful book of Revelations over the Sermon, in my opinion, suggest choosing letter over Spirit. Ignorance does excuse many mistakes, and you will, I am sure, be hugged by Jesus for your kindness, not for your beliefs.

          • Terry

            I can’t accept that quoting the Messiah’s words is somehow
            anti-Messiah. The “spirit” of Scripture? I have no idea what that means. “All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is
            profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness” 2 Tim. 3:16. I don’t just go through Scripture and cross out the sections I don’t like, or that are too harsh for my sensitive ears to
            hear. It is as you say the “letter over Spirit” because “There
            is a way that seems right to a man, but the end thereof are the ways of death.” Pro 14:12

            You see Joris, as a disciple I am called out of this world and
            told “be not conformed to this world: but be transformed by the
            renewing of [my] mind” Ro. 12:2 And since I know that all Scripture is profitable, I understand that “He that said, I know him, and keeps not his commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him. 1 John 2:4” Therefore when He says “Blessed is he that reads, and they that hear the words of this prophecy, and keep those things which are written therein: for the time is at hand.” Rev. 1: 3 I know that blessed am I for reading and understanding and
            keeping them. The lackluster view you have of Scripture deeply saddens me. The Messiah says “the time is at hand” and this is no time to be laid back. He is
            not coming in peace, love, and meekness but in Judgment and every single one of us will be judge according to our works (2 Corinthians 5:10 )“…the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the
            earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up” 2 Peter 3:10

            And so I will leave you with this “If you love me, keep my commandments. And I will pray the Father, and he shall give you another Comforter, that he may abide with you for ever” John 14:15 The Holy Spirit is
            only given to those who prove that they love God and according to the Messiah you can only prove your love by obeying His Commands. It is also a perquisite to even understanding Scripture properly, so don’t just stop at the Sermon on the Mount, though it is a beautiful teaching, it’s not the only thing our Messiah
            taught us.

          • Joris Heise

            I will leave it with you that I may have a lackluster view of scripture. But, I will repeat, the use of Stephen Langton’s numbering system for Scripture is not something I do. I find that people who do this are usually speaking AT me, TOWARDS me, but not to me. They tend to be a) showing their superiority of knowledge and I accept that, or b) like Satan in the temptations of Jesus challenging by using the Words of Scripture upsidedown.

            If you do not know the meaning of the Spirit of Scripture–I can only express surprise. It is the Spirit of Jesus with which we understand what we hear and read there.
            Here is my today’s blog on the following of Jesus–and, as it happens to say, independently of you, sometimes my loving means to leave you alone. You are superior to me as your criticism indicates, and I accept it. And I cannot change you; I can change myself….. Finally, I do believe the whole point of the original article is nuts, and totally derived from misreading Scripture, though I cannot change anyone’s mind is saying so. Jesus lives, and it ain’t in conspiracies, illogical generalizations or selectivity in scripture. It is His Spirit caring for one another here and now.

            Mar. 6

            “The Following of Jesus”

            Who is Your Enemy, and what can you do about it?

            43 You hear what people have
            said, “You are supposed to love your neighbor and despise anyone who doesn’t
            like you,” but I am telling you, “Love people who don’t like you, and bless
            people who scorn and upset you; 45 so that you may be children of
            your Father who is in heaven: Think! -He has His sun rise on people evil as
            well as good, and sends rain for good folks as well as bad ones. 46
            If you love just the people who like you, what good is it? Don’t rich people do
            the same thing? 47 And if
            you say “hello” just to your own family, how is that any different from everybody
            else? Don’t even “others” outside your circle do the same thing?

            Don’t you and I have a variety of “enemies”? Some
            people just don’t like you; others may like you but disagree with you. The current
            President of the United States, for instance, maintains a high personal likability,
            but many people are hostile to his positions. Other people resent you, or are
            jealous, or look down on you. These people are the ones you love.

            To repeat: these are the ones a follower of Jesus
            loves. All of them. You won’t change their minds. Deeply ingrained views do not
            modify easily. No matter how kind, reasonable, or tolerant you behave, your enemies
            will select to find fault, to not-see whatever they disagree with. Often they
            represent popular culture. Sometimes they represent religion, and challenge you
            as in the Temptations of Jesus.

            In the Spirit of Jesus you change no one, you love him
            or her. In the end, you and I change only ourselves. Whether in the reflective
            time of Lent, whether in prayer alone with God, whether in the sudden insight
            into self-deception—as a follower of Jesus, you need only focus on loving them,
            no matter what.

          • Terry

            Joris let me clarify, my use of the term “spirit” under the context of your phrase “Spirit of Scripture” is not in any way a reference to the Holy Spirit. In your previous post, you mentioned “choosing letter over Spirit” was an act of ignorance. Earlier in that post you said “I tend to use and follow the spirit of Scripture, and avoid specific references.” It is in this context I speak of “spirit” because I do not know a “spirit” that is somehow against, above, or beyond the letter (Word) of Scripture. Following this purported “spirit” of Scripture over Scripture itself demonstrates a clear ignorance of what the Scriptures actually are.” For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one” (1 John 5:7) Like so many today and in past, the context to which you speak sounds more like “ you walk every one after the imagination of his evil heart, that they may not listen to me”( Jeremiah 16:12) simply because you chose to follow your own belief system of what the Scriptures says rather than what it actually does say. You see, the path of God is the path of obedience and only through obedience can we come to know the Love that is God. We ALL are given the choice of whether we want to obey or not. It is completely up to us, but this obedience is not on our own terms as you say.

            I am unfamiliar with Stephen Langton’s numbering system as I don’t typically go to men for my interpretation of Scripture. Since you are apparently using this man’s views to somehow label me into a particular group, I will explain to you why I use Scripture the way I do and against those who I find to err away from the Truth. As I quoted in my last post, ALL Scripture is for instruction, and the Lord says “For precept must be on precept, precept on precept; line on line, line on line; here a little, and there a little” (Isaiah 28:10) The Messiah is The Word of God (John 1), the Word stands forever (Matthew 24:35) (Psalm 119:89)(Psalm 119:160), we’ve had the Word since the beginning (1 John 1:1), the Messiah is the Truth (John 14:6), the Law is the Truth (Psalms 119:42), the Law stands forever (119:160) Since the Word IS the Truth why would I use anything other than the Word to argue Truth? The Word MUST be our foundation so that “… we from now on be no more children, tossed to and fro, and carried about with every wind of doctrine, by the sleight of men, and cunning craftiness, whereby they lie in wait to deceive” (Ephesians 4:14) I am nothing, and I cannot be left to my own devices lest the devil deceive me. I thoughts beliefs and all that I am MUST be founded upon the rock that is the Messiah. Therefore the Letter is everything, since the Letter IS the WORD that we had from the Beginning (of time), and “the Word was made flesh and dwelt among us. And we beheld His glory as the only begotten of the Father” (John 1)

            So again I beseech you to consider these Scriptures because truth can only be argued with Truth and not what my idea of truth is, “For the word of God is quick, and powerful, and sharper than any two edged sword, piercing even to the dividing asunder of soul and spirit, and of the joints and marrow, and is a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart.” (Hebrews 4:12) and in a world filled with deceit it is our only way down the straight and narrow, for “strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leads to life, and few there be that find it.” Matthew 7:14

            As far as your post of who our enemies are, I think Paul said it best, “For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.” (Ephesians 6:12) There are two paths in this life: the path of good and the path of evil. If you chose evil “You are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father you will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and stayed not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaks a lie, he speaks of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.” If you choose good you are, “the children of light, and the children of the day: we are not of the night, nor of darkness”(1 Thessalonians 5) and are commanded to “Go into all the world and preach the gospel to all creation.”Mark 16:15 and that is exactly what we do.

          • Joris Heise

            1) before Stephen Langton (circa 1225) , no one cited numbers” (Mark 3, 17 or Matthew 5, 5). I have found from many, many years of loving Scripture that using these numbers on other people suggests superiority over us folks who don’t know (nor care) about numbers. 2) The spirit of God is within, and is none other than Third Person of the Holy Trinity talking through my conscience and yours. You wrote, ” I do not know a “spirit” that is somehow against, above, or beyond the letter (Word) of Scripture” Neither do I. 3) do you know just from your personal reading of scripture the meaning of “justice” (Sedaqah), or Mercy (Hesed) or “love” (‘ahabah”_ because YOU are inspired uniquely by God? I can’t believe you are that arrogant.
            I repeat that the original article is nuts because it arises from personal interpretations, from non-inspired people, and from prejudices and misunderstandings by ignorant readers who think of themselves (like ancient Gnostics) as knowing more than everybody else. I hope you are not one of those. My knowledge of scripture & Islam arises from loving Scripture, reading many books, listening to many voices and admitting that I make mistakes and need to correct them. You seem to eschew that kind of work and enrichment, but I hope not.

          • david

            Joris+++ I think I understand a little of what you are saying. I grew-up and developed in learning the bible from those verses. It is a way to keep reading straight and challenges us, each and everyone of us, to perform the never ending learning to understand God’s Word. However, as you said, and, please, forgive other’s short-comings and aggressiveness sometimes, that can come across as TALKING AT YOU as opposed to sharing with you, the Love, the ever-loving Word of God. Please, don’t let other’s short-comings be an obstacle or hindrence, to finding what God has a placed before us. That the present circumstances are but, temporary. It is that the Christian, lives not in the present, but, in the City of God, that is already present, but, not visible, but, a reality already within us. The world does not understand that, nor, will it ever, until that time when we see finally with our eyes. Peace of God, be with you; a peace that is incomprehensible.

          • Melisa Pendley

            Well said…

          • Melisa Pendley

            God is a God of love, he is also (be not mistaken) a God of wrath. Those who turn from the truth will eventually face his wrath. He did all he could, gave his best when Jesus died on the cross. It doesn’t take a scholar to understand that sir. It simply takes faith in what the Bible teaches and surrendering ones heart to God’s will and not our own.

          • Joris Heise

            Melissa, I always appreciate the faith and passion of people who care about the truth. but I also feel, unlike you, that our father’s house has many mansions–and that He wants us to come any way we can (i.e., people can see the Way of Jesus in many ways). I do not think that it is always “simply”–and that if it is complex for some–that too is God’s will. His will be done is my axiom, my principle. The “God of wrath” of the Old Testament directed his real “wrath” not against Israel, but against its enemies, and to us, the new Israel, our Father sends correctives. I picture the God I worship more as the Father of the Prodigal Son than the Old Testament images we carry over from childhood. Again, thank you for your perspective, which is enriching; I hope I have enriched you with my different one.

          • Melisa Pendley

            I am always interesting in the view points of others. I learned a long time ago there is no need to get angry and ugly as some folks do when talking/disputing over religious beliefs. In the end it will be up to him-the final judgement. I also agree with the Prodigal Son message and believe that He is open armed with any and all who come to him, regardless of race, nationality etc. I also appreciate someone like yourself that can have a conversation and steer clear of name calling and pettiness just because we may not agree on all points and facts. I hope perhaps I have left you with some things to think of as well sir. Good day and God bless

          • Stephen “Steve” Sponsler

            You don’t know God very well Joris. You’ve created a God of wishful thinking than of the Truth. God’s wrath is ALWAYS just as much as His Love His. He never c hanges nor has Christ – lest we call Christ a Liar.

          • david

            The Bible, whole and complete is the word of God. The bible is not a smorgasbord where you PICK-N-CHOOSE what delights your pallet. If you reject any of God’s word, you reject what God is revealing to us. If you reject any of God’s word, you reject God. You are choosing. Believe me, you are making a choice. The Word of God is the Water of Life. We cannot add or subtract from the revealed Word of God. If you reject His Word, you reject LIFE. You cannot think in the way the world thinks. You are influenced by world. The world has already rejected God. Guard yourself with the Spirit of God; but, God does not force you. He gave you the power of choosing. Choose wisely. Your eternity depends on this. The bible is not a smorgasbord.

          • Joris Heise

            your wrote: “The bible is not a smorgasbord where you PICK-N-CHOOSE what delights your pallet.” I hope and pray that you do not really believe that. Have you stoned your daughter–or even considered it if she is not a virgin ready for marriage? Do you eat lobster? (That is an abomination.) do you keep kosher? You and I select what is important. I believe in the Trinity, many do not. Am I wrong, heretical or “unorthodox”–or are you? I do my best to treat all my neighbors as my brothers and sisters–and I certainly do not believe that we are “inherently evil” as someone put it. My–our–Father certain does not think of anyone human as inherently evil (though some read the Bible that way). Someone else wrote that God (our Father) is a God of wrath. In my reading of the entire bible (esp. Deuteronomy and its influences) God corrects people with pain and suffering–but, as I read the bible, the Wrath of God is never directed to His people, his children.
            I do not charge anyone with wrongness nor heresy; I say we disagree. I think the Bible tolerates a lot of understandings and misunderstandings, like A Good Father. I will repeat that: If I disagree with you, I do not say you are wrong. I think a lot of people see sin and wrath that–in my view–is not there…but I do not think that wrong. I think Jesus was not very religious–actually somewhat hostile to the pharisees, priests, scribes, etc and they way they forced people into a mold of their choosing. I am with Jesus there–and tolerate Samaritans, Chaananite women, women with a flow of blood (a no-no of touch), touching lepers–all acts which broke his religious rules. I think he was a person of faith–a much broader view–in our father in heaven. Indeed, I think God our father WANTS us to have divergent views of what is written…

          • Jon Lee

            Jon Griffith’s

          • Melisa Pendley

            Perfectly said, no other explanation is needed. The truth will stand. Jesus is the only way.

          • Steve

            For one who claims to be a scholar, you know very little. The Arabic name for “God” is the word “Al-ilah.” It is a generic title for whatever god was considered the highest god. But if I say to you “God loves you”, what does that mean? Does that mean I am speaking of Allah? Absolutely not. I would be saying to you that Yahuah, or Yahweh, loves you, for that is His Name. The word “God” is a descriptive word, denoting only His office. Allah is not God, but a god. And Yahuah declares that there is none beside Him, and none other that can save. But none of that matters, until you learn more about Mohammed, and his treachery. He was a dupe, trained by a larger group, who I shall not name at this time.

          • Joris Heise

            Let me argue, though I have found that arguments, however logical, prayerful and fact-based, make little impression on the determined mind. I think many people end their growing love of God through their whole mind early in life. The ancient Semitic languages (Hebrew, Arabic, Ugaritic, Akkadian, etc.)–all across the board–produce a term that has many forms, all pointing to the high and invisible powers influencing our world. Israelites (and later Jews) preserved that term, and when Moses (in the TNK) asked the name of (their) “god,” the reply was elusive–and, like Pope Benedict XVI, I believe that the name was not to be pronounced –YHWH. Jews, including Jesus, did not use the name, like other devout Jews saying “Lord/Kyrios/’adonai” to replace the letters in print when the Hebrew was read aloud. The Lord’s Prayer continues that tradition of referring to the Israelite/Jewish/Christian ‘abba’ (the term Jesus chose to use). I respect the mystery of God who is both the Creator, and beyond noun-verb classification. I urge people to stop using that “name”–created by Archeologists from ancient Greek manuscripts, as in my humble opinion, it is disrespectful on the one hand, and misses the Fatherhood Jesus emphasized. .

          • Stacey

            Allah may mean god in arabic, but allah is not the God of the Bible, The God of Abraham, Issac and Jacob and the God that created the universe. Different Gospel different god.

          • Synagogue Of Satan

            They are not the same as Christianity worships JESUS AS GOD. So as I posted above, ONCE Jesus arrived, Judaism was not longer Christianity, rather became Anti Christian as they do not follow Jesus so even though it was the “beginning” of Christianity, now it is apostate, heresy, of the anti christ as they do not follow Jesus The Christ as the one and only Messiah. So of course Islam is anti christian as well as they follow a pedophile instead of the Redeemer, God of Gods, Our Savior and Messiah, Jesus THE Christ!

          • Melisa Pendley

            Agreed…you can’t change my mind. It is the Bible I trust and Jesus is God. Islam looks at Christ as a prophet…he is God not a prophet. He is the ONLY way to Heaven. Anything else falls short. You can believe it now or later but sooner or later you will believe it. I pray it is sooner.

          • Sharee Hill

            scholar or not u r just a big know it all and judging by ur likes nobody cares about ur point of view. i know i certainly dont

          • TheGreatOne Knows

            What is in that big black box ??

          • Joris Heise

            A second reflection from something I wrote elsewhere: “Pope Francis warns about the idolatry of an ideology, because once you
            buy into an ideology, the truth is denied, denied, denied and then
            ignored. Once you start down the road of conspiracy, “I know the truth
            and science is wrong,” and “I am smarter than most people.”–then bad
            consequences follow, as the night the day.” Sharee–I do not pretend to “know the truth and everyone else has it wrong.” I think sometimes that the most obvious learned thing IS the truth. The earth does revolve and that is why “the sun comes up.”

          • Sharee Hill

            who cares??????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????

          • Joris Heise

            One who chooses ignorance chooses to deny any God, as God reveals His Love by letting us know Him in creation, in revelation, in the parents who love us–and in the great diversity He has created–including, yes, differences of opinion. I will keep you, Sharee, in my daily prayers for awhile–so that you may care to learn, grow and eventually discover the loving God of Jesus. Your choice of ignorance is…probably a result of harm done to you, and those people ought to be ashamed.

          • Sharee Hill


          • Joris Heise

            Sharee, One of the greatest advantages and discoveries in true education is finding out how ignorant we all are. Chosen ignorance is, however, in my opinion as a follower of Jesus, a failure to love God with our whole mind–a sin of sloth. Real ignorance is what I have. Socrates claimed to be the most ignorant person in Athens–and I share that view about myself. I have discovered that the more a person knows of facts and truth, the more and greater becomes the unknown universe. Yes, therefore, I do need prayers, and I thank you….. My ignorance is why I am so ready to learn from people who disagree with me, humble to the core about that. Teach me and I will listen. Call me names and (Matthew 5), I will accept with gratitude, but disappointed not to grow with more knowledge of someone else’s point of view.
            I need—NEED–prayers..

          • Sharee Hill

            u still dont get it….im done(plz dont reply, i could care less about what u think . i refuse to read past the first few sentences)***

          • Joris Heise

            Respectfully, I appreciate your attitude; your rejection comes (Matthew 5) as a kindness. My greatest teacher was Kirk Neace, an extremely retarded and physically challenged student of mine–and you, too, teach me. It is a Godly world of His family, and I hope you realize that. God is good.

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          • david

            Read your history. ALLAH was a moon-god. This was one of the gods in the household of Mohammad’s father. Then, later ALLAH became the one and only god from the 360 gods that were worshipped in those Arab regions. Read your bible in the time of Abraham. It was customary in households, to have your own household gods made of clay…read it!!!!!!! Don’t take my word for it. You will see how Abraham, formerly, Abram, walked into his own brother’s dwelling and smashed the clay idols he had in his home. Read, read, read….and let it sink-in. ALLAH is not linguistics, ALLAH was the name of a household god of the crescent moon.

          • Joris Heise

            My question to you, David, is: Is there only one God, and if so why is that One God, the one that Islam worships? Call their “god” by any name, and/or say it is a “false god,”–can it not be the One God, the Father, the Creator of the Universe? I think so.

          • TheGreatOne Knows

            God created the world, it tells exactly how it was made in the bible!! Although earth was designed billions of years ago, by a god. The asteroid hit and wiped out the dinosaurs turning them into oil, covering trees and plants, turning them into coal !! A new god came back to earth, which was full of CO2 cleaned up the atmosphere, planted new trees, new animals, plants and people. Life begins again, so life begins with CO2 and Gods Tree, now pick a tree that represents the beginning of your life on earth, trees absorb the most carbon out of the atmosphere!

            Prophet Muhammad and Islam began in year 600 bc, nothing in the Quran says how earth was made! Islam cherished an asteroid, or whatever is in that big black box, a piece of the Moon…… Islam fights too much about their religion, just think positive, because life begins with CO2, and a tree!! Christians are right !!!

        • Melisa Pendley

          Allah is NOT the same God as the Christian God. The Christian God is Jesus Christ, part of the Holy Trinity…Father, Son and Holy Spirit. Ask any Arab that practices the muslim religion and even they will tell you it is not the same. They only recognize Jesus as a teacher and prophet. Where do you think the word ‘Christian’ derives from? Any Christian Arab worships Jesus…NOT allah.

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      • Carrol

        Yehovah is his name!

      • Yotam Israel

        And His name is YAHWEH

        • Joris Heise

          That name is one made up by theologians and scholars. The God of Israel had no name. You will not find it in the bible. You wll find the tetragrammaton (YHWH), but it was not his name, was not pronounced and referred exactly to “I am who I am”–without a name.

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  • prestodo

    There will be no “one world religion”.

  • Theodore

    Michael, “anathema” means separation. It is not a condemnation to hell, it is a way of telling that person that he is no longer part of the Church. Also, it warns the members of the Church that the anathemized person is outside its boundaries, until he/she repents and is welcomed back.

    Anyway, Roman Catholics are heretics, indeed. They turned the wrong way in 1054, and have been further and further away from the Truth ever since. They are not as far away from the truth as Protestants are, but they’re still heretics.

    Jesus Christ, when He ascended to Heaven 40 days after His resurrection, has not left behind a book or any writing. He left behind His Church. He also said that the gates of hell shall not prevail against the Church.

    Christ left behind ONE Church. Not 2, not 10, not 100. How many Protestant denominations are out there, all claiming to be interpreting the Scripture according to the Holy Spirit? The very idea of “Sola Scriptura” was unknown to Christianity till Luther introduced it 500 years ago.

    Well, 2000 years later, the Church of Christ is still alive: the Orthodox Church.

    • krinks

      LIE! Anathema is God’s curse of eternal damnation. Catholics can not be saved when they aren’t part of the church in good standing.
      Add to this the greatest abomination of all, the Unum Sanctum. It teaches that their is no salvation without submission to the Pope.
      On these two points alone, the Roman Catholic Church is Hell’s Pied Pipers.

      • Theodore

        That may be your own version of anathema. Are you sure your interpretation of this is inspired by the Holy Spirit? It looks much more like the Jewish Talmudic anathema, and not like the Christian anathema.
        Maybe Luther’s revolt against Rome was somehow justified. But instead of returning to the true Church, the Orthodox Church, Luther went even further away from the truth.

        • krinks

          Please stop lying. “That may be your own version of anathema.”- This is the stock answer from a Roman Catholic when they find themselves having to lie in order to prove their church’s false position.

          • Theodore

            “A man that is an heretick after the first and second admonition reject;

            Knowing that he that is such is subverted, and sinneth, being
            condemned of himself.”
            (Titus 3:10-11 (KJV)).

    • Cory

      What a ridiculous way to summarize your comments.

    • DB

      stop defending Rome…..Rome is ANATHEMA and we know it! Christ alone. PERIOD. Denomination doesn not mean divided my friend. Guess whose got more in common with the Bible than the RCC….every Protestant denomination! TRUTH!

      • Theodore

        I was not defending Rome, they’re heretics, but Protestant heresies are worse than Rome’s. Try reading Clark Carlton’s books: “The Way” and “The Truth”.
        Your approach to the Bible is a little bit wrong. It was the Church that produced the Bible, and not the other way around. The Church was built on the “rock”, but the rock is not the Bible, nor is it St. Peter. The “rock” is the confession that Christ is the Son of God.
        The way Protestants see the Bible was unknown to the entire Christianity for 1500 years. Sola Scriptura is a foreign doctrine invented by Luther. No wonder there are so many denominations…
        And you know what’s the biggest problem for Sola Scriptura? It is nowhere to be found in the Bible! The “Scriptures” the New Testament refers to are the Old Testament books. The New Testament canon was established a few hundred years later. The last book of the Bible was written some time after Christ’s Resurrection. Ever wondered how Christianity survived for that long without the Bible? Because it is the Holy Spirit that gives life to the Church, not the Bible.

        • whatgives?

          The NT canon was established by compiling the “books” that generally accepted since the beginning, many of them written within just a few decades of crucifixion.

      • otter1111

        I disagree. There are several Protestant denominations that are in favor of or are silent on gay marriage, abortion, and divorce. If the Catholic Church is so wrong, how could they be right on so many important issues?

  • Conrad J. Noll

    Religion itself is becoming increasingly irrelevant (not everywhere, but it appears to be a robust trend). A one world religion would be irrelevant on a global scale.

    • Malcolm Reynolds

      Irrelevant, no. Ignored, yes.
      And like a dog returns to it’s vomit, and the sow returns to her mire…. The Gods of the copy book headings, with terror and slaughter return.
      People WILL be reminded.

      • Conrad J. Noll

        Malcolm… you will need to translate…

        I have no idea what you are trying to say here.

        • NowAlive

          See R Kipling. The Gods of the Copybook Headings. Great poem.

          • Conrad J. Noll

            Thanks for the reference. I like Kipling…

        • Malcolm Reynolds

          the one line summary is, you say God is irrelevant at your peril.

          Godless societies (societies that put govt in place of God) are great at mass murder and oppression .

          • Conrad J. Noll

            I think not Malcolm. The peril we face comes mostly from folks who have a poor grasp on reality.

          • Malcolm Reynolds

            Umkay, good luck with that one.

            Sounds like your grasp on reality is tenuous at best.

          • Conrad J. Noll

            That was not nice Malcolm I didn’t insult you. There is common ground between us. I for one am willing to try and find it.

          • Malcolm Reynolds

            Sorry, your implication that religious people somehow have a poor grasp on reality is offensive. So ya, you did insult me.

            Usually the slack jawed morons that yammer about benevolent higher beings as imaginary believe that govt is a benevolent higher being. And THAT is easily proven thru history to be a poor grasp of reality.

          • Conrad J. Noll

            I didn’t imply that Malcolm. You took it that way. I don’t think religious people have a poor grasp of reality. Some may not, but it is not a condition.

            I know capable and incapable folks of every stripe I’ve never noticed religion being a factor, except where it is badly practiced.

          • Malcolm Reynolds

            Then you have my sincere apologies for the misunderstanding.

          • Conrad J. Noll

            Not at all…

            Perhaps we can have another conversation another time.

            You will find me engaging…

  • Sam Vats

    Revelation 17 the daughters are coming home to Mommy

  • DJohn1

    The Pope has seen the future. In that future is a destruction that will most likely kill all of us.
    Whether or not Jesus is God is a matter of interpretation of the literature left behind when Jesus went into the clouds. Can we have it both ways? I think so. Because what is described is someone with extraordinary abilities. One of those abilities was the ability to read the minds of the people around Him. I suggest that God is in control, and Jesus is his ambassador on this planet. That they have perfect communication with one another is not argued here. That all communication with God at this point is through Jesus Christ on this planet. Even Jesus said this in scripture.
    The reference to Jesus having a God as a father is there. What exactly does that mean? I mean from a material prospective. There are descriptions of many people supposedly a mix of “gods” and humans.
    What is described is three gods. The Holy Spirit is one. God is one. Jesus is the mix of the Holy Spirit conceiving a baby with a virgin woman. She was then given to a human in marriage so that Jesus grew up in a family with a human father.
    The Holy Spirit is described in detail in scriptures. That brings up an entire mountain of questions concerning the nature of the universe as we know it.
    God has numerous descriptions in both the Bible and other places.
    Jesus is described as well. The description I have is that Jesus is a mixture of human and the Holy Spirit. Son of man is a whole definiton onto itself.
    Basically God is described as a time lord. He is both the beginning and the end of time. God is basically in charge of all time and space and everything from the beginning of time to the end of time.
    At that least that is what I see in scripture. I am that I am. In other words I exist both in the moment and the past and whatever future there is to this universe.
    Jesus is described as a conceived mix of god and man. We know very little about the time from when he was twelve to the time he started his ministry at the approximate age of about 30.
    He appeared to have a very advanced knowledge of things that he was born with. He appeared to be able to change the physical laws we assume to be the laws of the universe. He appeared to have an ability to change our health status and cure many diseases.
    He appeared to have the ability to forgive people the wrongs that they have done in life.
    I don’t see any of his representatives capable of doing any of this.
    Though there are times and places when the apparent rules of the universe do not seem to apply and miracles do happen.
    If I have a criticism at all it is not us, not our ministers, not anyone that has any control over miracles except Jesus Christ and he appears to be missing having left 40 days after his restoration to life.
    He left us a comforter in the Holy Spirit and if miracles occur it is often through the medium of the Holy Spirit.
    My advice is simple. Pray like everything depends on Jesus to make things happen. Act like everything depends on us to make it happen. Work as hard as you can to make things happen. The rest is up to Jesus and the rest is up to whatever our God will allow.
    At last count, not the final count, there are approximately 100 million galaxies in the current universe. The size of the universe is enormous and still expanding. The God I worship created it all and it way beyond my meager mind to even conceive of just how enormous that universe is. Each of those galaxies has an unknown number of stars and an unknown number of Earths in it. That one entity is capable of doing that means that God must be extremely complex and if I am correct God must be enormous. I can really see delegating this planet to Jesus.
    It also refers to the destruction of this place somewhere down the road and an exodus to a new planet with a new set of constellations(new heavens). It also refers to humans becoming immortal.
    If we are to become immortal somewhere down the road of time then we have to really start over and learn everything new as a child does. It means being taught the right way of things. How many people do you know that are capable of doing that?
    How many people do you know that are really screwed up?
    Personally I think Jesus has quite a job on his hands if he is going to replace the current Earth with one on the right path to a relationship with him and his God(Holy Spirit being the father) and the Holy Spirit capable of changing things.
    I think this is a dumping ground for all the broken things in this Universe. But this Universe is so large that there must be more than one place to dump things on.

    • NowAlive

      What you say is mostly true. The Bible also says that Christ created everything and in Him and through Him all things were made. He existed with the Godhead from the beginning. He wasn’t created when the Spirit came unto Mary except as the God-Man. He isn’t a demigod, but part of the Triune God. See John 1 and Colossians 1:15-20

      • DJohn1

        You are correct about him being part of the trinity. He is a demigod because by definition he has human genes. It would be interesting to have his blood analyzed to see if it is hybrid or some other process is involved. Or if he was totally human.
        I think that hybrid humans are a fact. I think that is why several versions of humans such as Neanderthals might be a hybrid problem. If the double chromosome on each side making 23 chromosomes per side vs. our nearest relatives in the animal kingdom having 24 normal chromosomes per side is correct, then you would have a mismatch if the neanderthal does not have the double chromosome and a total of 48 vs 46 chromosomes. The resulting children would be sterile if the mule principle applies. Given that these ancient humans might have been attracked to the women of our species, they might have been brought down in a single generation of a crossbreed not being able to reproduce.
        I haven’t been able to find out if these Neanderthals were actually human or something else. My guess would be an unaltered critter with 48 chromosomes might have been a possibility.
        If Jesus was physically a hybrid then his genes might be different than ours. His Chromosome number might be different.
        I think of the trinity as a networking of the three individuals. God being at the top and of course in control. Each with individual minds but networked to use anything that any one of them has available. I think of God as being so much larger than us and not human. Jesus I have always thought of as being human plus. Not a whole lot is known about the nature of the Holy Spirit. God is known because of his interaction with mankind over many thousands of years.
        For instance, to look at the face of God was to die in the Old Testament. Yet Jesus claimed that looking at his face was also looking at his Father, they were that close in resemblance to one another.
        I guess we will find out if he comes back in our lifetimes.

  • Lee

    The original orthodox Catholic church has no pope and Jesus is said to be the Church leader. The Roman Catholic church made various changes to break away from the original church and continues to change. Changes for what?

    • Mark

      Yes, but the orthodox church also has pagan practices and believe in transubstantiation and Mary worship, among other things.

      • Philip Sieve

        No one goes after the Orthodox as they go after The Church regarding the same theological differencences. Jesus told his Apostles that when people hate you they really hate him. Protestantism, like their offbeat cousin, Mormonism, made a different Jesus than the real one by ignoring certain passages in the New Testament, incliding those from Christ’s own mouth. Ours only officially teaches what Jesus taught and the Holy Spirit taught later. Regardless of the upsetting things he keeps sayibg, Church teaching will never change, because they can’t change what the Holy Spirit has revealed. They never have and never will. Other churches have officially OKed stuff God hates. God said in Scripture “I hate divorce”. What Bible-believing Christ-loving peoppe would permit that or onanism a la contraceptives? The Holy Spirit is not protecting any other church and never will. It’s on Scripture; the others are not. If no salvation outside the Church wete not literally true, it practically is, because all other churches but ours have OKed serious sin, presumptuousness of fitness for Heaven based on a lie about salvation on faith alone, Bible fixing (which includes the addition of “alone” after “faith” in Romans) and adultery via marriage after a divorce of man’s making that God does not recognize (legal separation of assets and geography may be needed, if one has become a danger to the ability to live of the family and rejects any reform).

  • Kim

    Question: what does a Catholic priest and an Olympic silver-medalist have in common?

    Answer: they both came in a little behind

    Point: the Catholic organization has no moral legitimacy left, no matter what BS its pope spouts. It will never form a one-world religion; oh but it would love to– and rule over it as a counterfeit king! Think of all the children it could dominate and all the money it could exact! But, there simply isn’t enough time for it to properly execute its sinister plans. And not enough people are that stupid.

    What a beautiful place this earth will be when false religion is taken out.

    • Guest

      That joke is disgusting. I’m surprised to see something like that from you.

      • Kim

        I’m sorry. I put my name on what I post, and I take full responsibility,

        The joke is disgusting, but joke was intended to illustrate a deeper, more disgusting reality.

        • Guest

          Anyone with discernment knows that the Roman Catholic Church is full of pedophiles and other perverts. But your joke was just inappropriate and offensive.

          • Kim

            Fair enough.

          • With Fortitude

            Tell it again I missed it !!

          • Kim

            Guest will tell u. Lol.

          • With Fortitude

            Yeah, you did seem to rattle her sensitivities.. lol

          • Kim

            It’s understandable. The joke was bad.

          • With Fortitude

            Well what’s offensive is these Roman catholic child molesters were allowed to live. Meanwhile the catholic church promenades around what it deems to be sufficient in regards to it’s redemption from this vile revelation of it clergy. This article hopefully shines a light on what an abomination looks like!

          • Kim

            I agree, but the article didn’t go far enough. The Catholic Church has a long history of violence, greed, corruption and abuse. The clergy class is certainly vile and it won’t last.

          • Synagogue Of Satan

            ALL churches are corrupt. That is why we are told to REMOVE ourselves from the “whore of Babylon,” the Church, to have Him reveal Himself to us.

          • Bobbybestcat

            There’s pedophile teachers, police officers, store clerks, etc. The RCC is not alone in this.

          • Synagogue Of Satan

            So I guess it’s justified, then. I mean since EVERYONE is doing it.

          • Bobbybestcat

            Really? THAT’S what you took from this?

    • htmurph

      Wow! The Jehovah Witnesses must be proud of you, sister!

      • Kim

        I wouldn’t know. Would you?

  • Malcolm Reynolds

    If anything, trying to consolidate religions will make it fragment more and make it more private.
    I for one cant see myself faithful to a religion that puts men between myself and God ala Catholic confessionals and Mormon temple recommends. And any claims that a one world religion wouldn’t make you bow to men simply aren’t credible.
    I’m not knocking those religions, it’s just not for me.

  • Terry


    “That you be not soon shaken in mind, or be troubled,
    neither by spirit, nor by word, nor by letter as from us, as that the day of
    Christ is at hand. Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not
    come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed,
    the son of perdition; Who opposes and exalts himself above all that is called
    God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sits in the temple of God,
    showing himself that he is God. 2 Thessalonians 2: 3-4


    And there was given unto him a mouth speaking great things and
    blasphemies; and power was given unto him to continue forty and two months. And
    he opened his mouth in blasphemy
    against God, to blaspheme his name, and his tabernacle, and them that dwell in
    heaven (Revelation 13:5-6). ***note the Bible defines blasphemy as claiming to
    be God via John 5:18 and John 8:58-59 & claiming the power to forgive sins
    via Mark 2:6-11


    “The Pope and God are the same, so he
    has all power in Heaven and earth.” Pope Pius V, quoted in Barclay,
    Chapter XXVII, p. 218, “Cities Petrus Bertanous”.

    “…the Pope is as it were God
    on earth, sole sovereign of the faithful of Christ, chief of kings, having
    plenitude of power.” Lucius Ferraris, in “Prompta Bibliotheca
    Canonica, Juridica, Moralis, Theologica, Ascetica, Polemica, Rubristica,
    Historica”, Volume V, article on “Papa, Article II”, titled
    “Concerning the extent of Papal dignity, authority, or dominion and
    infallibility”, #1, 5, 13-15, 18, published in Petit-Montrouge (Paris) by
    J. P. Migne, 1858 edition.

    Pope takes the place of Jesus Christ on earth…by divine right the Pope
    has supreme and full power in faith, in morals over each and every pastor and
    his flock. He is the true vicar, the head of the entire church,
    the father and teacher of all Christians. He is the infallible ruler,
    the founder of dogmas, the author of and the judge of councils;
    the universal ruler of truth, the arbiter of the world, the supreme
    judge of heaven and earth, the judge of all, being judged by no
    one, God himself on earth.” Quoted in the New York

    “But the supreme teacher in the Church is the Roman
    Pontiff. Union of minds, therefore, requires, together with a perfect accord in
    the one faith, complete submission and obedience of will to the Church and to
    the Roman Pontiff, as to God Himself.” Pope Leo XIII, Sapientiae Christianae: On Christians as
    Citizens (January 10, 1890).

    “Furthermore, we declare, we proclaim, we define that it
    is absolutely necessary for salvation that every human creature be subject to
    the Roman Pontiff.” Pope
    Boniface VIII, Unam Sanctam (Rome: 1302).

    “It seems that Pope John Paul II now presides over the
    universal Church from his place upon Christ’s cross.” “Auckland Bishop Says Pope
    Presides From the Cross” (Zenit, September 20, 2004).

    “The Pope represents Jesus Christ Himself, and therefore
    is a loving Father”A letter from Cardinal Giuseppe Sarto (who became Pope Pius
    X in 1903) as quoted in Publications
    of the Catholic Truth Society Volume 29 (Catholic Truth Society: 1896): 11.

    “…our Lord God the Pope…”John Treat, The Catholic faith, or, Doctrines of the Church
    of Rome contrary to Scripture (1888) : 536.

    go to God for forgiveness of sins, come to me.” -Pope John Paul II, LA
    Times, 12-12-1984

    judicial authority will even include the power to forgive sin.”
    [The Catholic Encyclopaedia Vol xii, article ‘Pope’ pg 265]

    poor sinner kneels at his confessor’s feet. He KNOWS he is not speaking to an
    ordinary man but to ‘ANOTHER CHRIST,’ He hears the words: ‘I absolve
    FOREVER.” -William Doyle “Shall I be a priest” pp 14, 15

    God himself is obliged to abide by the judgment of his priest and either
    not to pardon or to pardon, according as they refuse to give absolution,
    provided the penitent is capable of it.” -Liguori, «Duties and Dignities
    of the Priest», p.27


    “And he shall speak great words against the most High, and shall
    wear out the saints of the most High, and think to change times and laws…”(Daniel


    is our mark or authority…the church is above the Bible, and this transference
    of Sabbath observance is proof of that fact.” —Catholic Record of London ,
    Ontario, September 1, 1923

    will tell me that Saturday was the Jewish Sabbath, but that the Christian
    Sabbath has been changed to

    Changed! But by whom? Who has the authority to change an express commandment of
    Almighty God? When God has spoken and said, ‘Thou shalt keep
    holy the seventh day’, who shall dare to say, ‘Nay, thou mayest work and do all
    manner of worldly business on the seventh day: but thou shalt keep holy the
    first day in its stead?’ This is a most important question, which I know not
    how you answer… “You are a Protestant, and you profess to go by the Bible and
    the Bible only; and yet, in so important a manner as

    observance of one day in seven as the holy day, you go against the plain letter
    of the Bible, and put another day in the place of that day which the Bible has
    commanded. The command to keep holy the seventh day is one of the Ten
    Commandments; you believe that the other nine are still binding. Who gave you
    authority to tamper with the fourth? If you are consistent with your own
    principles, if you really follow the Bible, and the Bible only you ought to be
    able to produce some portion of the New Testament in which this fourth
    commandment is expressly altered.” Excerpts from “Why Don’t You Keep Holy the
    Sabbath Day?”, pages 3-15 in The Clifton Tract, vol. 4, published by the Roman
    Catholic Church 1869.

    have repeatedly offered $1,000 to anyone who can prove to me from the Bible
    alone that I am bound to keep

    holy. There is no such law in the Bible. It is a law of the holy Catholic
    Church alone. The Bible says,

    the Sabbath day to keep it holy.’ The Catholic Churchsays: ‘No. By my divine
    power I abolish the

    day and command you to keep holy the first day of the week.’ And lo! The entire
    civilized world bows down in a reverent obedience to the command of the holy
    Catholic Church.” — father T. Enright, C.S.S.R. of the Redemptoral College,
    Kansas City, in a lecture at Hartford, Kansas, February 18, 1884, printed in History
    of the Sabbath, p. 802

    – Which is the Sabbath day?

    – Saturday is the Sabbath day.

    – Why do we observe Sunday instead of Saturday?

    – We observe Sunday instead of Saturday because the Catholic Church, in the
    Council of Laodicea (A.D. 364), transferred the solemnity from Saturday to

    Rev. Peter Geiermann, C.S.S.R.,The Convert’s Catechism of Catholic Doctrine, p.
    50, 3rd edition, 1957.

    How prove you that the church had power to command feasts and holydays?

    By the very act of changing the Sabbath into Sunday, which Protestants allow of
    and therefore they fondly contradict themselves by keeping Sunday strictly, and
    breaking most other feasts commanded by the same church.

    Have you any other way of proving that the church has power to institute
    festivals of precept?

    Had she not such power, she could not a done that in which all modern
    religionists agree with her; -she could not have substituted the observance of
    Sunday the first day of the week, for the observance of Saturday the seventh
    day of the week, a change for which there is no Scriptural authority.”

    Stephen Keenan, A Doctrinal Catechism On the Obedience Due to the Church, 3rd
    edition, Chapter 2, p. 174 (Imprimatur, John Cardinal McCloskey, Archbishop of
    New York).


    And did all drink the same spiritual drink: for they drank
    of that spiritual Rock that followed them: and that Rock was Christ.
    1Corinthians 10:4

    O come, let us sing unto the LORD: let us make a joyful
    noise to the rock of our salvation. Psalms 95:1

    He is the Rock, his work is perfect: for all his ways are
    judgment: a God of truth and without iniquity, just and right is he.
    Deuteronomy 32:4

    Therefore thus saith the Lord GOD, Behold, I lay in Zion for
    a foundation a stone, a tried stone, a precious corner stone, a sure
    foundation: he that believeth shall not make haste. Isaiah 28:16

    Jesus is the chief corner stone not Peter!

    “And are built on the foundation of the apostles and
    prophets, Jesus Christ himself being the chief corner stone” Ephesians 2:20

    “Why also it is contained in the scripture, Behold, I lay in
    Sion a chief corner stone, elect, precious: and he that believes on him shall
    not be confounded.” 1 Peter 2:6

    “And have you not read this scripture; The stone which the
    builders rejected is become the head of the corner” Mark 12:10 & Psalm

    As it is written, Behold, I lay in Sion a stumblingstone and
    rock of offence: and whosoever believeth on him shall not be ashamed. Romans

    The rock destroys the beast….

    For as much as you saw that the stone was cut out of the
    mountain without hands, and that it broke in pieces the iron, the brass, the
    clay, the silver, and the gold; the great God has made known to the king what
    shall come to pass hereafter: and the dream is certain, and the interpretation
    thereof sure. Daniel 2:45

    Thou sawest till that a stone was cut out without hands,
    which smote the image upon its feet that were of iron and clay, and brake them
    in pieces. Daniel 2:34

    “And then shall that Wicked One be revealed, whom the Lord
    shall consume with the breath of his mouth, and shall destroy with the
    brightness of his coming” 2 Thessalonians 2:8

    Peters words!!!

    Be it known to you all, and to all the people of Israel,
    that by the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth, whom you crucified, whom God
    raised from the dead, even by him does this man stand here before you whole.
    This is the stone which was set at nothing of you builders, which is become the
    head of the corner. Neither is there salvation in any other: for there is none
    other name under heaven given among men, whereby we must be saved. Acts 4:10-12

    Does this say NONE OTHER THAN THE
    POPE!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!!??!!?!?!?! NO!!!!!!

    And Jesus answered and said to them, Take heed that no man deceive
    you. For many shall come in my name, saying, I am Christ; and shall deceive
    many. Matthew 24:4-5

    “Jesus answered, “I
    am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except
    through me.” John 14:6


    • Bryan

      the Lord hates the doctrine of the nicolations or leity. one man has power over another or has more authority…nothing but a false relegious system!!! there is ONLY ONE head of the church JESUS CHRIST! He is the founder it is upon the confession which Paul writes in Romans 10 and Peter’s confession of the Christ not Peter, as it says in ephesians ther is one Lord one Baptism and ONE FAITH! it God’s church he is no respector of persons but has a wonderful deversity of gifts he gives through those born of the Holy Spirit!!

    • Andrew

      You quote the Bible extensively, how about this one: ’16 Then Simon Peter spoke up and said, ‘You are the Christ, the Son of the living God.’

      17 Jesus replied, ‘Simon son of Jonah, you are a blessed man! Because it was no human agency that revealed this to you but my Father in heaven.

      18 So I now say to you: You are Peter and on this rock I will build my community. And the gates of the underworld can never overpower it.

      19 I will give you the keys of the kingdom of Heaven: whatever you bind on earth will be bound in heaven; whatever you loose on earth will be loosed in heaven.’ ‘

      Mt 16:16-19

      • Terry

        I like the Aramaic English New Testament (AENT) commentary on this passage,

        “This is a wordplay between Keefa (Peter) the man and what his nicknames means. The Messiah uses Keefa’s name to reveal the significance of Keefa’s conclusion. Neither flesh or blood (an individual) can reveal the “nature”of the Messiah, except The Father Himself by the Holy Spirit. Using the literal meaning Keefa’s name (rock), the Messiah brings together the understanding of the Rock of Deut 32;18, 30, 31; Psalm 61and 62; Isaiah 8:14; 17-10; 51:1-8. When Simon Peter says, “You are the Messiah,the Son of the Living God” he confesses faith in the Messiah, not the person only, but the Spirit of the Messiah in Jesus. The Messiah’s reply provides Peter the same reference that David and the Prophets had regarding God’s Salvation, the Rock. However, this verse was twisted by Catholicism to first give Peter “authority” then usurp Peter’s “authority” for its leader.”

        And a quick word study search for ‘Rock’ in Scripture reveals the nature here,

        And did all drink the same spiritual drink: for they drank of that spiritual Rock that followed them: and that Rock was Christ. 1Corinthians 10:4

        O come, let us sing unto the LORD: let us make a joyful noise to the rock of our salvation. Psalms 95:1

        He is the Rock, his work is perfect: for all his ways are judgment: a God of truth and without iniquity, just and right is he. Deuteronomy 32:4

        Therefore thus saith the Lord GOD, Behold, I lay in Zion for a foundation a stone, a tried stone, a precious corner stone, a sure foundation: he that believeth shall not make haste. Isaiah 28:16

        “And are built on the foundation of the apostles and prophets, Jesus Christ himself being the chief corner stone” Ephesians 2:20

        “Why also it is contained in the scripture, Behold, I lay in Sion a chief corner stone, elect, precious: and he that believes on him shall not be confounded.” 1 Peter 2:6

        “And have you not read this scripture; The stone which the builders rejected is become the head of the corner” Mark 12:10 & Psalm 118:22

        As it is written, Behold, I lay in Sion a stumblingstone and rock of offence: and whosoever believeth on him shall not be ashamed. Romans 9:33

        And of course Peter “Be it known to you all, and to all the people of Israel, that by the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth, whom you crucified, whom God raised from the dead, even by him does this man stand here before you whole. This is the stone which was set at nothing of you builders, which is become the head of the corner. Neither is there salvation in any other: for there is none other name under heaven given among men, whereby we must be saved. Acts 4:10-12

        Notice in Peter’s proclamation there is no “I” or “me” or the like (even the Church) where in contrast we hear the Pope say ““But the supreme teacher in the Church is the Roman Pontiff. Union of minds, therefore, requires, together with a perfect accord in the one faith, complete submission and obedience of will to the Church and to the Roman Pontiff, as to God Himself.” Pope Leo XIII, Sapientiae Christianae: On Christians as Citizens (January 10, 1890).

        I can’t help see a major disconnect here

  • Once this takes place, the inquisition will start again on all who do not follow the popish devil. Rev. 12:17, 14:12, “And the dragon was wroth with the woman, and went to make war with the remnant of her seed, which keep the commandments of God, and have the testimony of Jesus Christ.” … “Here is the patience of the saints: here are they that keep the commandments of God, and the faith of Jesus.” (KJV)

    • Philip Sieve

      Sadly, most Catholics don’t follow their church’s teachings. The rest, minus traditionalists, are singing kumbayah with the non-Catholics. I’m not sure who would be carrying out the Inquisition with the traditionalists at the back of the bus. BtW, I heard the occultists, John Dee co-wrote the KJV. I do respect those Fundie denominations and those from under the powerlines, like the JV and Mormons, for trying to save souls of others like the latter are doomed without the former’s faith tradition, while ours seem to think it’s just a swell lifeplan since the ’60s.

  • Gordon Brownlee

    The problem with this type of unity is, it’s based on men trying to once again build a tower and make a name for themselves. Jesus was clear that He will build His church; He won’t be asking for help from various religious factions.

  • Luis

    “Apparently Pope Francis believes that Catholics and Muslims worship the same God.”

    That is actually true. I encourage those who would like to study this further to go into Youtube and type “walter veith catholic muslim connection”. Dr. Veith gives an excellent Powerpoint presentation based on his original research (with lots of pictures) that clearly shows the link between the two religions. It’s absolutely amazing, I highly recommend it.

    Catholicism is a filthy, wicked, unbiblical, pagan religion masquerading as a Christian one. They have tortured, butchered and burned millions of God’s people over the centuries and have offered no apology for it. Their henchmen, the Jesuits are masters of infiltration. They have corrupted most all protestant religions over the years, which is why no one is protesting much of anything anymore. But I do protest it, vehemently. Do not be deceived by this baby kissing pope! Even the devil can act like a saint when the cameras are rolling. For a free online book on Bible Prophecy, I would also encourage everyone to go into ‘Reg6 dot com’ to get the scoop on where all this is going.

  • Whatsgoinon333

    This Jesuit pope is pushing Marxist ideology. Karl Marx was Great Grandson of Nathan Rothschild. The Illuminati was founded by a Jesuit and Rothschild was it not? A plan to take over the world?

  • Hope

    Do we dare name him? Eventually (and soon) that answer will be “YES”!

    Bible Prophecy speaks of a one-world government under the leadership of the Antichrist. It also says that there will be a one-world religion led by a False Prophet who works closely with the Antichrist. I strongly believe that this religion will be a convergence of any and all religions as long as they do not include Jesus as Savior and Lord. That means Christians are the only ones that stand in the way of this all-tolerant teaching.

    When I read this article this morning, it struck me as
    adding credibility to the Rapture of the Church teachings. True
    Christians would never conform to an everybody-goes-to-heaven nonsense religion because the Holy Spirit leads us into truth. Truth testifies that our Heavenly Father knew there was no other way when He allowed His Son to be brutally sacrificed for us .

    The Rapture promises to deliver us from the hour of evil… and the
    Antichrist promises to take care of the hundreds of millions of
    remaining stragglers that accept Jesus after the fact. He has been
    promised the power to overcome (kill) them.

    We see new pieces of this prophetic puzzle being added every day.
    This is not a spiritual allegory. It is very real, and it should get
    the attention of the very best. We are literally witnessing this
    Biblical end-time scenario exactly as it was told.

    I don’t know if this Pope is actually the False Prophet or not, but he has certainly taken on a roll that mirrors the Biblical description. What we cannot deny is the convergence of these prophetic end-time events: the Israeli peace treaty, the push for a cashless society, feel-good (itching ears) religion, big-brother
    government, and fierce homosexual pride. It means that the genuine
    characters will soon appear on the stage. Jesus told us, “When these things begin to happen, lift up your head; your redemption draws near”. Personally, I’m looking up these days.

  • ProclaimingGodsTruth

    IMO, this pope is laying the groundwork for the False Prophet. We must remember that in Rev 13:11, the beast arising from the earth had 2 horns and spoke like a dragon. This beast is like a lamb in nature, speaks nice, uniting words but will deceive many as the Devil (Dragon) does constantly (Jn 8:44). This FP beast will unite all religions into one; this seems to be what this pope is doing. Will he be the FP? That remains to be seen. Keep watch – ears and eyes open!

    • nekksys

      We’ve been looking for a “world leader” to herald the coming of the End of Days… I don’t think we expected him to be a religious “world leader.” Even so, this Pope does have the charisma and likeability that was prophesied in Revelation; so much so that even those who claim to be the elect of God are being fooled by him. Well done, Mr. Copeland.

      To the faithful, cast your eyes to Heaven and pray, “Come!, Lord Jesus!!” To those outside the Covenant created by Christ, be ready for things to get rough. Before this is over, you’ll be casting your eyes to Heaven and either begging for salvation or cursing God. For those who do the latter, the fires of Gehenna are being stoked with fresh coals just for you…

    • otter1111

      The Catholic Church can’t change it’s moral beliefs.

      Do you really think there will be a one-world religion that is completely pro-life, proclaims that homosexual acts are gravely immoral, and says that contraception is wrong? None of those things will ever change in the Catholic Church.

      • ProclaimingGodsTruth

        Don’t be too sure of that my friend. Rev 13 says that a False Prophet (FP) will align all world religions into one. There will be many, many changes coming that many, many people will accept and align with the FP and the Antichrist. Many, many people will be deceived; it is prophesied and God is NEVER wrong!

        • otter1111

          I don’t doubt scripture. But I’m sure the Catholic Church can’t change it’s doctrine. But here’s an explanation of the Catholic position:

          No, the Church cannot change its doctrines no matter how badly some
          theologians may want it to or how loudly they claim it can. The
          doctrines of the Catholic Church are the deposit of faith revealed by
          Jesus Christ, taught by the apostles, and handed down in their entirety
          by the apostles to their successors. Since revealed truth cannot change,
          and since the deposit of faith is comprised of revealed truth,
          expressed in Scripture and Sacred Tradition, the deposit of faith cannot

  • otter1111

    Bashing the Catholics seems to be very popular on this site. You must realize, though, that when you do you are on the same side as Obama, Hollywood, the liberal media, the homosexual lobby, and the pro-abortion lobby.

    • Philip Sieve

      They need to clean their houses, before trying to clean ours. They might find their own protected scoundrels and their unbiblical theology and conveniently-ignored or explained -away contradictory Bible passages. DEspite my problems with the Pope’s dialogue and false ending of the root of our divisions, I still give him the benefit of the doubt in general. I just hope he isn’t part of the prophecy of religions spiting truth for a false unity.

  • With Fortitude

    This blew me away Michael ! I have been sending this to everyone.
    Surely Copeland has to know what kind of attention this will get him.

  • Lyn Leahz

    Michael how does one reach you? I looked for a contact and can’t find one. Please email me at lynleahz@gmail.com

  • prestodo

    The Catholic Church is the great and abominable church that is owned and controlled by Satan. It is not Jesus Christ’s Church, otherwise it would be titled “The Church of Jesus Christ”. The word “catholic” means universal, or universal acceptance of different and perverse doctrines that are totally against the teachings of the Son of God and His prophets. in this case it is the mixture of a perverted form of early Christianity with Paganism that was forced upon people by governmental decree, i.e. Constantine. Neither the catholic church or the protestant prostitutes actually belong to Jesus Christ in His Church. They never had the priesthood as it was taken from the earth along with the death of the Apostles.
    Jesus said that by their fruit (or by their works) you will know them. The catholic church is one of the most murderous organizations in the history of the earth. How can an organization that has caused the murderous deaths of so many innocents over the course of its history belong to the Prince of Peace??? Likewise, then how can protestants claim authority from Christ from an organization that does not belong to Christ??? They are all corrupt, and all their creeds are an abomination.

    • Philip Sieve

      So, idms the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints a genuine Christian faith because it has Jesus’s name in its title? Jesus does not approve of such flattery, but of doing his Father’s will. You guys can’t face your unbiblical beliefs, and probably know it and hate it, so you project on our church. Speaking of murders, what do you make of the persecutions that killed off many Catholics after these so-called Christian faiths started up? Why were most Protestants members of the occultic Freemasons? I’m sure one initiate into a high-up level would have heard of the blood oath that must be made, rejected the evil honor, and told others it’s evil–same with other similar secret societies–No? Our church has condemned membership since one pope learned what was going on with them. Why would the Church, if it were the head of freemasonry, condemn membership of its members into those secret societies, which could bring it lots more money? It’s likely the Protestant reformers sold out to globalists or were finanxcd by them, as was the case with the communist rebellions. The international freemasons took responsibility for the horrors of the Masonic leaders in Mexico, who oppressed the people’s religious rights to the extreme. Protestanf lies led to the Japanese abd Chinese massacreing Catholics. They also were the dominant faith when Indians were massacred in North America. Pope Francis was right about all of us Christians were guilty of the divisions, but I think careless Catholic leadership was just a bad excuse for a monk and a king to get a woman (it’s women or power or both for them, as opposed of the real reformers, who remained Catholic and, like Christ, did not get women or power, but a glorious award in Heaven). That is what really started these “reformation” initiators, but they needed to feel ok about it so they used unCatholic abuses to do it. Luther, himself, said he created a thousand popes on trying to get rid of one.

      • prestodo

        Yes, The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints is genuinely Christian because it bears the name of Jesus Christ and was started by Christ Himself through a living prophet, just as Christ’s true church was organized anciently. The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints is organized with a quorum of 12 Apostles, a quorum of 70, and so forth down the line with the full restoration of the Priesthood that was lost at the death of the Apostle John. And as far as your so called “unbiblical beliefs” go… Members of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints believe in Jesus Christ, pray in His name, practice Priesthood ordinances and blessings in the name of Jesus Christ, and believe the Bible to be the Word of God. All our beliefs are found in the Bible. The LDS church is not a protestant church by the way since the LDS church is a restoration of the original church, not a reformation of the corrupt.

        • Synagogue Of Satan

          Mormons, same as the Catholic church, same as ALL churches are corrupt. REMOVE ourselves from the WHORE OF BABYLON and all her FALSE teachings, and Jesus will reveal Himself to us. Where 2 or more are gathered. My gosh, look at all the egyptian pyramids, all seeing eye of horus, inverted pentagrams are posted THROUGHOUT these churces. FULL of Satan, period.

  • Rastus

    Working to obtain eternal life is repugnant to a Holy God. Your works contribute nothing to the grace that Yahua gives freely “without cost” to those who believe in Yahusha. Augustine, the father of Catholicism is also the father of Calvinism and Arminianism, all works salvation religions (works to prove your saved is the same as works to obtain salvation, either way without works, your toast). I can see an ecumenical world soon approaching due to the fact that all religions including most of what is called Christian are all salvation by “works”. Good luck with that! To think that you could add one iota to the finished work of Yahusha is the ultimate insult to your Creator that made eternal life so accessible that even a mere child can understand it. God will not be your debtor! He owes you nothing!

    • Bobbybestcat

      I didn’t read the link but I’ve heard this debate many times. The work of atonement IS done fully by Jesus. But “faith without works is dead.” We are to DO good works including charitable and conduct-wise ( no sinning, etc.). By understanding both it silences the atheist argument about acting sinfully but saying one is saved in Jesus, which looks and sounds hypocritical. When one is saved, one won’t (intentially and habitually) act sinfully.

      • Rastus

        An atheist is not silenced by the antinomian argument. Many an atheist has been charitable and morally upright, oftentimes more so than believers, its one of their sacraments.

        “won’t Intentionally and habitually act sinfully”. This statement is the creed of Lordship salvation/reformed theology. The major problem with this understanding of what a “true” believer is, is that it is experiential. Assurance of eternal life is based on continuance of faith and good works as “proof” you are saved. As a sinner your conscience will not allow you to have assurance because you will always fall short of the imaginary threshold required for proof, also known as ‘experimental predestinarian’. Supposedly you are predestined but you don’t really know until the experiment (life) is over. Works play no part in receiving or proving eternal life, it is by believing on the Lord Jesus Christ for eternal life, that is our assurance.

  • Robert C. Laity

    The Pope is in error. Muslims and Christians do NOT worship God. Muslims worship a false god. Islam is ANATHEMA.

  • Nick-Dog

    Dear Michael,

    I enjoy and read your posts frequently . Yours are some of the best out there on the collapse and NWO. This post, however, is off base.

    I am a practicing Catholic, well-versed in my Faith, so I am going to take the time to respond to each of your points. I apologize if I miss one.

    1.) Yes, the Council of Trent condemned the proposition that we are saved through “Faith alone.” See James 2:14. The Catholic Church has always taught that you need to have both Faith and Works. While grace is ultimately a mystery, the Lord gives us the law to follow it. Jesus Himself commands good works, but he also says your Faith has saved you. It’s not either or but both that are necessary.

    2.) “Luther’s protest is over?” — For some it is. When the Catechism of the Catholic Church came out around 1995, it was hailed by some protestants as “an end to the reformation.” For others, unfortunately it’s not.

    3.) Muslims claim the God of Abraham as their God. So do we as Christians and Catholics specifically. And while we as Christians are right in our understanding, and they, the Muslims, are more wrong in theirs, recognizing this common root of Faith helps Catholics dialogue with Muslims and possibly speak some sense to them and convert them. This is what’s going on, religiously speaking. This was done as well under previous pontificates.

    Also, you bold “the one God” in Francis statement, and then in your interpretation rephrase it as him stating “the same God.” This is imprecise theological language. Francis is recognizing the monotheistic tradition (and common root) in both Faiths, without saying they are the same, as you have done.

    Describing the God of Abraham as “one and merciful” is an objectively accurate statement from the Christian perspective. Again, while Muslims have a distant piece of the puzzle, as Christians, we have the whole mysterious puzzle. Francis is using the ammunition of logic and theological precision to lead Muslims to believe in Christ as God.

    4.) What is wrong to feeling close to anyone of any religious tradition? Isn’t this the call of the Gospel, to see through the sins or potential ugliness of others to the Image of God within them? It’s hard to convert others without feeling close to them, and Francis, by accounts that I trust, is pretty genuine. Also, this language is nothing new from a Pope. We should feel close to all of humanity, like Mother Theresa of Calcutta, to serve Christ who is in them, regardless of their faith or tradition. And yes, this includes atheists, who are hostile to Christians especially. All of us, our enemies included, are called to be in Heaven.

    5.) Ideology. Here’s the rub my friend. Within the Catholic Church, for more than a century, we have been battling the influence of atheistic modernism and communism that has set out to actually destroy the Church from within. There have been conservative reactions against that, some of which have even cut themselves off from the Faith (like the Society for Pius X, for example).

    The main point here is that Francis is addressing modern day Pharisees who use rubrics and an overly-strict adherence to the law to live out their Faith in what ends up being a cold, uncharitable way. Francis is trying to bring people back to a sincere, heart-felt adherence to the law that allows for human brokeness and the Providence for God. It’s hard to argue against the language of the heart. Unfortunately, it’s hard to put into words for all men without sounding imprecise.

    6.) Indulgences. Christ gave to the Church the keys to the Kingdom and the power to hold bound in Heaven and on Earth. Indulgences fit into this paradigm. Has this been abused? Yes, but has God allowed it still? Yes. We still have indulgences within the Church, such as with the novena to the Divine Mercy from Good Friday to Mercy Sunday. And by the way, you should get your hands on St. Faustina’s diary, Michael, if you haven’t already. Christ has a lot to say about how time is short and that recourse to His Divine Mercy is man’s last hope before He comes again.

    7.) With all that said, Michael, God founded one and only one Church, a divine institution made up of spiritually fallen human members. The differing examples of Judas the Iscariot and St. Paul illustrate this. We are fallen, yet called to the unity of Faith. From its beginning, the Church actually seeks to Catholicize the world, though as you may note, there are differing cultural expressions of that same Faith within the Church, such as, broadly speaking, the Byzantine and Roman rites. In any case, theological differences aside, there will be one flock in Heaven, and the Divine mandate to go out to make disciples of all nations should not be a surprise to you. 🙂

    God Bless and Godspeed, Michael. I have written this to give you an honest take from a real Catholic. As far as the Church’s perspective goes, I got it right–to the best of my knowledge at any rate. As far as what you may believe, well, that’s between you and the Lord.

    Best, –Nick-Dog

    • otter1111

      Thanks for posting. As a practicing Catholic, I am glad someone is defending the faith as I, too, believe Michael is way off base on this one.

      • Nick-Dog

        Thank you, gentlemen/women. Keep the Faith. –Nick-Dog

    • RsB

      Thank you so much for taking the time to post this. Many perspectives need to be shifted. I hope Michael and others took what you said to heart.

      • Nick-Dog

        Thank you gentlemen/women! (writing this twice, so you both see the comment). Keep the Faith! Best, –Nick-Dog

  • Philip Sieve

    I’m just teasing you guys, but just happy we’re not one who disrespects ecumenism by trying to ignore the profundity of our differences, while we can find common ground in some things, like a common enemy in secularism. This “Hey, we’re all Christians and it’s all the truth we need to know” mindset of the mainstream ecumenical crowd is a cancerous sickness. Of course, expressing our different beliefs with vitriol is, too, and I have been guilty. We don’t have to do this kumbayah crapin fear arguing differences could lead to a religious war, because our self-forced lack of acknowledging the dangers of some can lead to ours being led away by those who wish us harm or being bettayed by those we think would help, because we thought we had something good with them. Maybe I missed some encyclical that makes me wrong, but I think we can be Christian to those who think differently without trying to firce unities that don’t exist. I get carried away, though it’s kind of fun to bicket on comment sections, I confess, but I am honestly nice to all I meet unless a staff who picks on me pushes my buttons on the wrong day at the wrong time. It’s wrong, but, in personal conduct, we’re all wrong. Any case, forgive me and I forgive you for things written here that have gone too far.

  • M

    Yes you fanatic, Muslims believe in One God….the Creator of this Universe and the One who created our Souls.

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  • Joey D’Fixer

    Three major things i have issue with is saying how ‘atheists’ are redeemed through Chirst. Well, sorry, they arent. They dont believe in ANYTHING at all, so how can they be redeemed? Yea, they may be nice people, sure (i have respect for atheists who fight against tyranny, who wouldnt?), but for him to say there is a religious ‘closeness’ or insinuating some kind of bond to them, is bizarre and makes no sense, as they dont follow or practice any kind of religion, gospel, etc. He says the truth, is the good and beauty of God, etc, and he says these non-believer types who are searching that truth are to accepted as allies. Well, the problem is these people dont hold to any religious practices whatsoever. They dont believe in ANY kind of Creator or gospel. Nothing. Nada. Zero. Therefore, how can he say that they would be searching for the beauty and goodness of God? Makes no sense at all.

    The 2nd, is how he is saying we all believe in the same God. Huh? Last i checked, Muslims utterly refute Christ as the Son of God and debunk it outright, and in case he hasnt noticed, all those lovely j!hadis abroad love killing people who believe in that very system. Yes, fine, we should respect them and all, i get all that, but this spiritual closeness and flower child type of stuff just doesnt mesh very well. Islam, Christianity and Judaism are diametrically opposed, big time.

    And the 3rd is that last piece about ‘ideological’ Christians he’s taken issue with. Uh, whats wrong with that? Being against the whole qu-er lifestyle and abortions for example, is part of that ideology, part of the ideals, and part of what we practice and defy as part of our…well…our IDEOLOGY. None of that is a way of life for us, and contradicts our beliefs. So how can we not be ideological when those ideals and principles embody everything being a Christian is about? I mean…he is really speaking some very Babel’ish stuff, that’s for sure, but yea, its definitely very concerning and seems like the incremental roll out of what’s to come with the whole Luc!ferian garbage one-world-religion junk. Just keep your eyes open and your guard up, all ya can do.

  • Seen2013

    “If any one saith, that by faith alone the impious is
    justified; in such wise as to mean, that nothing else is required to
    co-operate in order to the obtaining the grace of Justification, and
    that it is not in any way necessary, that he be prepared and disposed by
    the movement of his own will; let him be anathema“

    Doubtful. Actions speak louder than words, and your actions can refine one’s resolve in this case resolve of faith or expose it as vulnerable.

    “Apparently Pope Francis believes that Catholics and Muslims worship the same God.”

    Sharia is a government-religious merger not far removed from the Protestant France lead by the King and Richelieu aka the first prime minister V the Catholic Feudal Hapsburg Holy Roman Empire. This is the war that decided France’s influence to even this day.

    “So how in the world can Christians and Muslims worship the same God?”

    Sharia isn’t apolitical; it’s very political. If I recall, Jesus is not the son of God in particularly in Sharia; in fact, it’s considered an insult to the Prophet Muhammad

    “Even the atheists. Everyone!.. We must meet one another
    doing good. ‘But I don’t believe, Father, I am an atheist!’ But do
    good: we will meet one another there.”

    The religion of secularism… This is why anything being contributed to consciousness, God, and natural processes are under attack with the solution of secularism largely controlled by Neo-Malthusians, Gradual-Random pro-unnatural selection evolutionists, and followers of political Bismarkianism. Abortion, Selective gender, euthanasia, and other forms of population control are in our future.

  • Tony Lopez-Cisneros





    WELL, BEHOLD THE FULFILLMENT OF BR. ALBERTO RIVERA’S WORDS . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .

  • Tatiana Covington

    Fact is, that everyone lives on one planet, apart from the ISS crews (and they are just barely offshore).

    So until we start colonizing Mars, we are global and always have been, ever since people started spreading out from what is now east Africa.

  • Rastus

    Better reread the cannons and decrees of the council of Trent again. particularly the anathama’s concerning justification.

  • Wulfrano Ruiz Sainz

    Muslims worship the Moon-devil Allah.

  • Daisy Debs

    If there is a God who created us all ….then he would only want us to live in peace , to look out for one another and look out for the planet and beautiful creatures that were put on it .

    • trbozman

      Man under satans lead had their chance in ruling this planet and it was a total disaster. What you desire is coming real soon when the lease is officially up. God is longsuffering and will get His day! Time to choose who’s side you on. If you think God is the good guy who has been falsely portrayed then you need to take a step of faith towards Him. If you believe that He is just as bad as satan, as most atheist’s claim, then enjoy more ugly forever.

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  • dan

    Thank god I’m an atheist. I’ll just sit back and watch this freak show. Ahh the wind’s of change. Can you smell the crap in the air?

  • Mark Mywords

    If you want to know TRUTH look up Walter Veith on youtube.

  • againstcorporaterule

    Technically he is absolutely right. Judaism, Christianity, and Islam are the big 3 identical religions that were specifically designed to control humanity. The end result for all three is the same (just look at the strong alliance between the govt’s of Israel and Saudi Arabia and the U.S.)…

    Joseph Atwill’s excellent research proves that Jesus was the latest invention of elite power -see ‘Caesar’s Messiah’ documentary on youtube. But if you look at what knowledge the Roman empire’s elite did everything in their power to destroy (the library of Alexander, etc.), it becomes clear that all 3 religions were created as the ultimate tools for controlling humanity.

    John Lash’s book, ‘Not In His Image,’ (2006) explains the tiny sliver of ancient knowledge that survived, the texts found at the Nag Hammadi, which soundly proves the big 3 religions are identical and are the root cause of humanity’s demise thus far.

  • ock

    I think to many today pretend that we know what God wants us to do because we put ourselves in His place and, then, argue as if we were God. ie. “God is love and, therefore, he cannot condemn honest people from other religions to Hell for eternity.” This is a human subjective reasoning that, objectively speaking, has nothing to do with God’s judgment of persons. This is also a manifestation of pride. God gave us the Old & New Testaments and reopened for us the doors of Heaven that Adam had closed, but He chose the means for this. He found a Church that is based on St. Peter and gave the Seven Sacraments for all those who want to do His will and be saved. So that these Sacraments would always be available to men, He established a Hierarchy, which will endure until the end of the world. The Catholic Church. It was the Councils of Rome in 382, Hippo in 393 and Carthage in 397, which decided which books were canonical in both the Old and New Testaments. The Catholic religion had existed sixty-five years before the Bible was completed. Church was already on its fifth Pope. No one should quote Scripture at all, for he has no means of knowing which books are inspired; Unless of course, he wants to accept the authority of the Catholic Church for that.
    Saint Ignatius of Antioch,107 A.D..(disciple of St. John) “Where the bishop appears, there let the people be, just as where Jesus Christ is, there is the Catholic Church.”

    • bob

      Roman Catholic history is a false history. There is no succession and the early saints the RC claims as theirs, know nothing of the RC church’s claim and would never stand for it. The RC church’s origins really gained steam out of the time of Constantine and then, over time morphed into what became in later centuries. It always has been a means to gain earthly power, both in a spiritual and human sense. It developed over time and then, for purposes of power, history is “fitted” to match their false claims. To claim the RC church gave us the bible is false, another lie of the church and a discredit to God. When St. Ignatius spoke of a catholic church, he meant the church universal, which is the common definition of “catholic”.

  • Bob

    Luther believed the Office of the Papacy was the Office of the Anti-Christ. If he is right, as I believe he is, then this can never change. Roman Catholicism was thought up in the mind of the Devil and there is no transformation coming for Roman Catholicism. It is what it has always been, a demonic deception and counterfeit of the true gospel.

    • Andrew

      there were many saint who kept reform the Church, Luther brought division not improvement! Hundreds of denominations sprung from the Reformation – disunity is very painful for Jesus, and great victory for demons. Please keep in mind Eucharistic Speech of our Savior during the Last Supper! BOB check some facts on Luther’s life, especially his private correspondence to witness his downfall.

  • Slam 1954

    Allah is not God ! Allah is one of 360 gods worshiped by Abrahams family in the region near Ur. Allah is short for the moon god called Al’liah. It was taught to Ismael by Hagar, who was also from Ur. Islam does not mean peace but in fact means submission and Allah never referred to Allah as God, he said that Allah is the greatest god, not the same god !!!!

  • stef

    The False Prophet – Forerunner of Antichrist

  • stef

    The mankind is under a satanic spell

  • stef

    WE live in a terrible experiment…

  • Laura Phares-Wilson

    It is time to get very serious folks. I am Laura Wilson, host of The Highland Perspective. The outbreak of WWIII because of the Ukraine could happen very, very soon. A Stand-off is at hand between Nato and Russia. Such an event could spark the Vatican’s One World Religion (False Prophet) as the Beast System has cranked up it’s war machine. If you do not have a place to flee away from major metro cities, as the World’s Last Chance people to help you find a rural locations to go to. DO NOT GO EMPTY-HANDED as rural people cannot feed you and your family. Get your Prep food now – as much as you can and find out what all you can get into your vehicle in case you need to flee the city. You cannot put this off any longer. Get Prepared now !

    • Kent Harris

      One small problem if there is seven years of tribulation and 2/3 of the world’s population is decimated no amount of prep food will suffice. One would need to learn how to live off the land.

  • Joris Heise

    this article is just plain nuts. a) it shows no understanding of real history b) it shows no understanding of the WHOLE of Scripture c) it shows no understand of the God who is the Creator of our World. Yes, his designation in Arabic is ‘Allah. Try translating the English word “god” into Arabic, and you get ‘Allah. It is not stupidity, but ignorance that triggers these remarkably inept articles.

  • whatgives?

    Uh, no. The Catholics did not give us the bible and if they had their way, it would probably still be in Latin and illegal for the laity to posses!

    • otter1111

      You’re incorrect. The Catholic Church decided which books would be included in the bible late in the fourth century. The church came before the bible, not the other way around.

      Why is a Protestant bible different from a Catholic one? Martin Luther didn’t like some of them so he got rid of them. He also wanted to get rid of James and Revelation.

      Look up your history, for “to be deep into history is to cease to be a Protestant” -John Henry Cardinal Newman

      • whatgives?

        I stand corrected. The books did not exist until the Catholic church canonized them. Uh, yeah.

        • otter1111

          Sure they existed. But there were other letters and books that existed too that were not put in the bible. Who had the authority to decide? Protestants didn’t exist for the almost the first 3/4 of Christianity.

    • otter1111

      The Catholic Church banned unapproved translations that were defective …. why
      would the church want to allow faulty translations be provided to the
      faithful ?…

  • prestodo

    No, the Bible does not say don’t add to it, Corrupt Protestant Preachers and Catholic Priests who are paid money for corrupting the word of God by mixing in their own false philosophies and paganistic beliefs say that. The Book of Revelation is where John the Apostle states not to add or take away from the Book of Revelation, not the Bible. If you were any sort of Biblical scholar, you would know that. And, even if what you said was true, the Book of Mormon does not take away from or add to the Bible in any means. What, you think that God cannot talk to people today?? You think that the cannon of scripture is closed?? You think that there aren’t true living prophets on the earth today that receive direct revelation from God just as in times past??? I won’t even comment on the derogatory sneer about so called “treasure hunting” that you have accused my church of doing or anything else for that matter. At least my church is not responsible for the Crusades and is not responsible for the murder of millions of innocent men, women, and children. You know very well that history shows the Catholic Church is responsible for outright murders, yet you call my church demonic??? You call good evil and evil good sir. At least in my church, we don’t pray to false gods called Saints and think that the Pope is a god himself as he has taken the name of the Holy Father, attempting to replace god.

    • Synagogue Of Satan

      The catholic and mormon church are demonic. Just look at all the satanic symbolism throughout. That is easy to pick out without even reading their teachings.

  • SantosGarcia

    He IS ‘the False Prophet’ of Revelation 13, and the Final Pope; EVIDENCE? http://zionsgate.wordpress.com/2012/07/28/939/and- http://zionsgate.wordpress.com/2013/05/03/exo-vaticana-book-review/

  • Debra Roman

    Catholic means universal. The Catholic Church is the only church who claims Jesus Christ as its founder. Jesus’s one true church had four marks: it was one, holy, Catholic, and Apostolic. The early church was one and it was Catholic. Then came the divisions. The first group to split were the Orthodox. The second group to split were the Protestants. After that, too many groups split from the Protestants.

  • Philip Sieve

    Prophets of the OT did and said seemingly scandalous things to make a greater point. It may be that the chastisement is coning and we need to choose the authority Christ established and live as Christ established, as the rest have made their choice. All other churches have ignored something in Scripture, such as no remarriage after divorce or faith wothout works is dead, which they will be judfed by. Our behavior may be judged more harshly for knowing the whole package.


    Focus people . Focus … it’s not about God or Allah or whose tougher .

    It’s about the Global ” Elite ” using the Vatican to coral as many worshipers they can for a central controlled Religion that supports and is part of a ONE WORLD Government .

    Last pope is on record advocating a one world dollar ….

    • Joris Heise

      My question–granted it is hostile to most “I Hate One World Government people”–is this: What would be wrong with a very democratic/republican One World government? A fascist, or (old-style) communist or dictatorial one world government would of course be bad for our globe, but what about one that is none of these?

  • Kent Harris

    Catholics you better start opening up the Word of God because religion does not save. It is Jesus Christ, our Lord and God, who shed His blood on Calvary.

    • David

      Amen Brother Christ return is near for those who love Him.

      • Joris Heise

        The return is happening. It is within. When will people who read the Bible realize that–we live in a world where the in-breaking of heaven is happening–trying to. Jesus is ALWAYS coming again. That is why He said to Paul. “I am Jesus whom you ARE persecuting.” Jesus lives in the resurrected community–those who care without preaching it, who do not know Jesus is the least of the brethren( Mat 25) and do the will of the Father. Jesus is at the door NOW.

  • Fatboy

    Mommy is that you ?

  • Jennifer Wing Atencio

    Michael Snyder – Your presentation is inaccurately researched and your argument is therefore based on a “strawman”. The documents of Vatican II did reverse prior statements. I find it amusing that people like you criticize and criticize to your hate-filled hearts content the historic Catholic church, supposedly in the name of “reformation”; however, when the reformation is clearly evident and even documentable, you ignore it completely! I feel so sad for the hatred based on ignorance that you spread. Have you really listened to Pope Francis’ daily homilies? I challenge you to! They are ALL about the person of Jesus and the need for reform in the priesthood. He also speaks of the end times we are in and the spiritual battle before us. You are unable to recognize the movement of God’s spirit in Catholic Christianity because you are blinded by your pre-disposition to hate us. You have been indoctrinated by a clever deception from Satan to prevent the possibility of Christian unity – when it is exactly by all of the followers of Jesus Christ uniting in His hame that Satan’s influence in this world will be defeated. Do you completely ignore what Jesus said in John 17? Jesus desires our unity so that “THE WORLD WILL BELIEVE THAT THE FATHER SENT ME.”
    You really are fighting the wrong enemy, and it is so very, very sad. I believe your hatefulness, ignorance and bigotry is the kind that greatly grieves God’s spirit. You cannot recognize true brotherly love in the name of Jesus Christ when you see it. How very sad!

    • Terry

      The Catholic Church has admitted to torturing and killing an estimated 150 million Christians throughout its history. I would really like to know how you rationalize that fact along with the two quotes below in light of this prophesy ““And he shall speak great words against the most High, and shall wear out the saints of the most High, and think to change times and laws…”(Daniel 7:25)

      ‘Remember the Sabbath day to keep it holy.’ The Catholic Church says: ‘No. By my divine power I abolish the Sabbath day and command you to keep holy the first day of the week.’ And lo! The entire civilized world bows down in a reverent obedience to the command of the holy Catholic Church.” — father T. Enright, C.S.S.R. of the Redemptoral College,
      Kansas City, in a lecture at Hartford, Kansas, February 18, 1884, printed in History
      of the Sabbath, p. 802


      “You will tell me that Saturday was the Jewish Sabbath, but that the Christian Sabbath has been changed to Sunday. Changed! But by whom? Who has the authority to change an express commandment of Almighty God? When God has spoken and said, ‘Thou shalt keep holy the seventh day’, who shall dare to say, ‘Nay, thou mayest work and do all manner of worldly business on the seventh day: but thou shalt keep holy the first day in its stead?’ This is a most important question, which I know not how you answer… “You are a Protestant, and you profess to go by the Bible and the Bible only; and yet, in so important a manner as the observance of one day in seven as the holy day, you go against the plain letter of the Bible, and put another day in the place of that day which the Bible has commanded. The command to keep holy the seventh day is one of the Ten Commandments; you believe that the other nine are still binding. Who gave you authority to tamper with the fourth? If you are consistent with your own principles, if you really follow the Bible, and the Bible only you ought to be able to produce some portion of the New Testament in which this fourth commandment is expressly altered.” Excerpts from “Why Don’t You Keep Holy the Sabbath Day?”, pages 3-15 in The Clifton Tract, vol. 4, published by the Roman Catholic Church 1869.

  • lee vitalone

    “Many will come in my name and mislead”. Now is the time to make the choice. We are being observed, and the initial inspection has been done. There is only one group of people, organized, that are doing as the Almighty demands. The work is continuing, and millions will know at the last minute that it is the truth, and will seek it because they will realize just who is going to be in charge. For only YOU know deep inside you are on the correct path. The way to salvation is narrow and difficult in these times to stay on the path. There is only ONE road. The other routes are purposely filled with signs to mislead many. A point must be made, and it will be, very strongly, that this world is not needed as it is. It offers nothing good but the truth. We all know what that is. But many think it comes all wrapped up nice. When it is not at all pretty.

    • Joris Heise

      I love the contradictions in your comment! Which is all right. As humans, we see only obscurely. “YOU know deep inside…” = true of LOTSANDLOTS AND LOTS of us. “there is only ONE road.” —and each of us believes that “I” am on it–even as a Jihadist, Crusader or James Jones. “It offers nothing good but the truth.” Well, yeah–what else? “We all know what this is.” hunh? If we all know, how can it mislead?

      A follower of Jesus, an appreciator of our Creator, and a student of history, I urge you to expand your knowledge, to fill in the ignorance (a facet that is not shameful–I am constantly discovering ways to fill in my ignorance), and to discover the bigness of God.

      think about this: What if Jesus in saying “I am the Way, and the Truth, and the Life” was not being egotistical, but very human, and saying that “my humanity–the one I share with all o f you–is the way to the Father by compassiong for one another–is the WAY to God. ” I am…the truth” — the one I share with all of you–the truth of words and belief and ignorance and hope —the human truth of humiilty and service–is the TRUTH. “I am… the life — the life you live now–not in some mysterious semi-Egyptian after-life which I don’t believe in either, but heaven-NOW, the life you and I (Jesus) live together bearing one another’s burdens. I, Jesus, am yours and my life, the real life and not the mask of hypocrisy, posturing, praying in public (matthew) and so on.

  • david

    what a bunch of bull. This article makes zero sense. Ever heard of the apostle’s creed? It makes it quite clear that Catholics believe in the Holy Trinity. (God the Father, God the Son and God the Holy Spirit. The author of this can take this heresy and stuff it where the sun doesn’t shine. Complete idiocy! Here is just a portion of the Creed for your reading enjoyment: “we believe in the one Lord Jesus Christ, His only Son our Lord, who was conceived by the Holy Spirit, born of the virgin Mary and became man. He suffered under Pontious Pilate, suffered, died and was buried. On the third day He rose again in fulfillment of the scriptures. He ascended into Heaven and is seated at the right hand of the Father. He will come again in glory to Judge the living and the dead and His kingdom has no end.” So can anyone please tell where in those lines does it tell you that Catholics do not believe in Jesus being God? Yeah, I thought so. Stay off the liquor.

  • Greg

    Christians believe that Jesus Christ is God? It’s not that simple, Jesus is part of the trinity, and if Christians are to believe the Old Testament (the document validating Christ through prophecy) then Christians should know that the theme of “one God” is essential to Christianity.

  • Ramona Drew

    Jesus is not God he is God’s son 2 separate people

  • learnmore

    Christians believe Jesus Christ is god? *facepalm* son of god.. not god.

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  • pigesol

    Please find and read “The Great Controversy” book of Ellen White written in 1888. Since then, it is been advised it will come and is happening now..She quoted…
    “Charles Beecher, in a sermon in the year 1846, declared that the ministry of “the evangelical Protestant denominations” is “not only formed all the way up under a tremendous pressure of merely human fear, but they live, and move, and breathe in a state of things radically corrupt, and appealing every hour to every baser element of their nature to hush up the truth, and bow the knee to the power of apostasy. Was not this the way things went with Rome? Are we not living her life over again? And what do we see just ahead? Another general council! A world’s convention! Evangelical alliance, and universal creed!”—Sermon on “The Bible a Sufficient Creed,” delivered at Fort Wayne, Indiana, Feb. 22, 1846. When this shall be gained, then, in the effort to secure complete uniformity, it will be only a step to the resort to force.

    When the leading churches of the United States, uniting upon such points of doctrine as are held by them in common, shall influence the state to enforce their decrees and to sustain their institutions, then Protestant America will have formed an image of the Roman hierarchy, and the infliction of civil penalties upon dissenters will inevitably result.” Great Controversy, page 445.


  • Truth hurts

    Muslims as well as Jews do not worship Jesus A.S. as god.

  • Ben Oliver

    The pope is the antichrist

  • SeriousQ

    So is the Christian faith the only one that acknowledges the “Trinity” of Father God, Son Jesus and the Holy Spirit? This my faith.

  • Vicki Mayefski

    In revelations it talks about the harlet that sits on 7 hills. Rome sits on 7 hills.

  • Project Samizdat

    Interesting that some people are touting a new mysticism for the 21st Century, that Pope Francis would probably be comfortable with:

  • Nivek Yentrouc

    Muslims are seeking converts among the feckless western liberals. The same liberals who hate Christians, call us all sorts of names for believing in God seem to be quite ready to accept Muslims. Muslims who claim to be pious followers of the one true God are quite comfortable playing along with the decadent and perverse western liberals and tell them, “homosexuality, promiscuity, abortion, public nudity, those things may be ok for you but they are not for Muslims.” Christians on the other hand, say to liberals; “God wants you to live for Him and not for your lusts” which is not a message the sinful don’t want to hear so the liberals hate us. Who speaks for the true God?

  • Jim j

    Acts 13:48