Why Are So Many Young Adults Moving Back In With Mommy And Daddy?

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In the United States today, more young adults than ever are living with their parents.  Right now, approximately 53 percent of all Americans in the 18 to 24 year old age bracket are living at home.  But many of them are still in school, so that is to be expected to a certain extent.  What is even more frightening is that one survey found that 85 percent of all college seniors plan on moving back in with Mommy and Daddy after graduation.  But isn’t college supposed to be about getting the skills and education that you need so that you can become independent and start a life of your own?  Something has gone seriously wrong.  Even more frightening is a different survey that found that 29 percent of all Americans in the 25 to 34 year old age bracket are still living with their parents.  Once you hit your late twenties or early thirties you should definitely be able to live on your own.  That is a time when young adults should be married, establishing their careers and starting families.  Overall, approximately 25 million American adults are living with their parents in the United States right now according to Time Magazine. 

So what in the world has happened? 

Why are so many young adults having to get a moving quote and move back in with Mommy and Daddy?

Well, the following are a few of the factors that are involved….

Our Education System Does Not Prepare Them For The Real World

The education that our young people receive gets “dumbed down” a little bit more every single year.  Many of our young people can barely read or speak coherently when they graduate from high school, and they certainly are not being equipped with the skills that they need to be successful in our increasingly complex world.

In a previous article entitled “How Stupid Are American High School Students?“, I detailed many of the shocking statistics that show how poor our education system really is.

For example, did you know that a survey conducted by the National Geographic Society discovered that only 37 percent of all Americans between the ages of 18 and 24 can find the nation of Iraq on a map?

We have lowered our standards so far that we might as well not even have standards anymore.

In another previous article I discussed some of the signs that our young people are rapidly falling far behind the rest of the world….

-In 2011, SAT scores for young men were the worst that they had been in 40 years.

-At this point, 15-year-olds that attend U.S. public schools do not even rank in the top half of all industrialized nations when it comes to math or science literacy.

-The average young American will spend 10,000 hours playing video games before the age of 21.

Sadly, our education system is not something that is going to be reformed overnight.  These problems took a long time to develop and they are going to take a long time to be fixed.

The System Does Not Teach Young People To Be Independent

When our young people ask why they should stay in school and work hard to get good grades, what do we tell them?

We tell them they need to do it so that they can “get a good job”.

You hardly ever hear anyone telling kids that they need to study hard so that they can “start a business” someday.

Our entire education system is designed to produce subservient cogs in the machine.  Our kids are not trained to be independent and to think for themselves.  Rather, they are trained that if you do what the system tells you to do that you will be rewarded.

As I progressed in my education as a young person, I always did what I was told, I got great grades and I stayed out of trouble.  I had faith that if I did what the system said that I would be rewarded.  But when I graduated from college nobody came and handed me a good job.  There was no “reward” waiting for me at the end of the rainbow.  I had a hard time functioning because I was so used to having the system tell me what to do and now there was nobody telling me what the next “level” was.

We desperately need to teach our kids to be strong, independent individuals.  But instead we are indoctrinating them to be mindless servants in a system that is increasingly becoming socialized.  For much more on this, please see my previous article entitled “28 Signs That U.S. Public Schools Are Rapidly Being Turned Into Indoctrination Centers And Prison Camps“.

Drowning In Student Loan Debt

A lot of our young people cannot make it once they leave college because they are absolutely drowning in student loan debt.

In the United States today, there is more total student loan debt than there is total credit card debt.

In fact, student loan debt in America has grown by 511 percent since 1999.

For a whole bunch more horrifying statistics about this crisis, please see this article: “The Student Loan Debt Bubble Is Creating Millions Of Modern Day Serfs“.

Not Enough Jobs

Every year millions of high school students are encouraged to go to college because that is what they need to “get a good job”.

But the truth is that there are not nearly enough good jobs for the hordes of college graduates that our system is producing.

During 2011, 53 percent of all Americans with a bachelor’s degree under the age of 25 were either unemployed or underemployed.

So what happens to all of those young people when they can’t find jobs or they have to take jobs that do not even require college degrees?

That’s right – they end up moving back in with Mommy and Daddy.

Declining Wealth For Young Adults

One very disturbing trend which has been accelerating in recent years is the “wealth gap” between older Americans and younger Americans.

The truth is that young adults in the United States are systematically becoming poorer.

For example, incomes for U.S. households led by someone between the ages of 25 and 34 have fallen by about 12 percent after you adjust for inflation since the year 2000.

Older Americans have been doing relatively better.  So the gap between the two groups continues to grow.

In 1984, the median net worth of households led by someone 65 or older was 10 times larger than the median net worth of households led by someone 35 or younger.

Today, the median net worth of households led by someone 65 or older is 47 times larger than the median net worth of households led by someone 35 or younger.

Rejection Of Marriage

The basic economic unit of any society should be the family, but our “modern society” has encouraged young adults to put off marriage and to sleep around with as many people as possible.

Today, an all-time low 44.2% of Americans between the ages of 25 and 34 are married.  In our movies and our television shows, young men are portrayed as “slackers” that want to have sex with as many women as possible and that are generally repulsed by the idea of tying the knot.

So instead of starting strong, independent families at a young age, our young adults are obsessed with the “hook up culture” and the results are catastrophic.

Today, the United States has the highest teen pregnancy rate on the entire planet by a wide margin.

That is a national disgrace.

And it is incredibly difficult for any single mother to make it alone in this economy.  During 2010, 42 percent of all single mothers in the United States were on food stamps.

As a nation, we need to admit that the next generation of Americans is seriously messed up.

Instead of being ready to change the world, many of our young adults still need us to figuratively change their diapers.

So what is the solution to this crisis?

Please feel free to post a comment with your thoughts below….

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  • Gay Veteran


  • A Dodgy Bloke

    When you graduate with 60K plus of school debt with a Liberal Arts degree you have a problem. You are not going to make enough to retire that student loan debt and student loan debt is not dischargeable in bankruptcy that means you are stuck with it. One thing I discovered is these types of arrangements are not that uncommon in Italy, a country with an admitted problem. Anybody in this predicament I would suggest looking at parents in Italy are dealing with this. I’m thankful I have no kids that I know of, almost every parent I know has some sort of issue with thier kid.

    • marK

      I am really sorry that you have not experianced how wonderful children can be. It does take a lot of time spent one on one with them to turn out good. My kids are great. They don’t swear, drink, smoke, do drugs or sleep around. My daughter is married to a loving man and they are going to have their first child in Febuary. My son is coming home from a 2 year mission in South America and has learned spanish real well. He will go back to college in January as he already has one year finished. My daughter earned a degree in accounting and has a fair job. It will get better as she has 5 years under her belt. I told my children that I would pay for their college costs if they chose a degree that they could get a good jod and they took me up on it. No Liberal Arts degree if I pay for it. They could always go their own route with their own dime if they want too. My goal was for them to be independent and raise their own family.

  • So I don’t think there is a solution to this crisis… its just been too long in the makings with too much power backing it up:
    2 Timothy 3:1 But realize this, that in the last days difficult times will come. 2 For men will be lovers of self, lovers of money, boastful, arrogant, revilers, disobedient to parents, ungrateful, unholy, 3 unloving, irreconcilable, malicious gossips, without self-control, brutal, haters of good, 4 treacherous, reckless, conceited, lovers of pleasure rather than lovers of God, 5 holding to a form of godliness, although they have denied its power; Avoid such men as these. 6 For among them are those who enter into households and captivate weak women weighed down with sins, led on by various impulses, 7 always learning and never able to come to the knowledge of the truth. 8 Just as Jannes and Jambres opposed Moses, so these men also oppose the truth, men of depraved mind, rejected in regard to the faith.

    9 But they will not make further progress; for their folly will be obvious to all, just as Jannes’s and Jambres’s folly was also.

    So it sounds like “avoid them and let them run their course”?

  • Colin Lindsly

    I am doing research for my mother on how to do bankruptcy. It is possible to get yourself out of student loan debt. However, it is very difficult and requires that you met very strict guidelines. This situation requires the student to hire an attorney because the calculations needed to prove inability to pay are complicated and, if done badly, can have the case dismissed. It costs thousands of dollars to hire and keep an attorney on your case. Most students don’t have the money.

    I started reading stories about young people living with their parents in National Geographic. For me, Italy and Cuba were far-off lands. Now, my own country is experiencing this issue. Soon, I believe, every country in the world will have this issue.

    I don’t see a solution. This issue had a long gestation period, and, once it took root, it became hard to kill. I believe that for many that what is happening is socialism. It isn’t Countries that have socialism, such as Finland, have a population that is very literate and can hold their own in a debate. The schools we have are failing because the wealthy have no interest in a population that is on par with Finland. Their surrogates, the politicians, are cutting education funds every year, are closing down schools, are laying off teachers, are forcing school districts to work with less, and are forcing districts to accept a bailout with the caveat that they don’t have a say in the reorganization. The wealthy, the corporations, want schools that preach Corporatism and will teach students the skills they need to do the basic tasks. Like Dolores Umbridge, of Harry Potter said, “Although each headmaster has brought something new to this… historic school, progress for the sake of progress must be discouraged. Let us preserve what must be preserved, perfect what can be perfected and prune practices that ought to be… prohibited!” So, no Michael, what is happening is not socialism. It is a takeover of our schools by the corporate conglomerate, and their mission is to create corporate drones.

    Articles about the corporate takeover:
    * https://www.commondreams.org/view/2010/11/16-4
    * http://crooksandliars.com/karoli/disaster-capitalism-k-12-education-and-corp
    * http://www.leftyparent.com/blog/2011/09/10/education-and-the-cult-of-efficiency/
    * http://www.leftyparent.com/blog/2012/01/06/3263/
    * http://www.infoagepub.com/products/Ignoring-Poverty-in-the-US
    * http://www.schoolsmatter.info/

    In my home state of California, Gov. Brown approved a measure to bailout Inglewood School District with the condition that they will accept an administrator who will get this district out of the red.


    I believe for you, Michael, and the other right wing bloggers that it is easy to blame socialism for the education crisis. I believe that you and the others have fallen into the very trap that the wealthy have set out. They expect people to parrot what they say. You can do that, or you can begin to ask questions. Is what I am hearing the same as what is happening?

    Let me put this to you another way, what countries are ahead of us in global competitiveness? Finland ranks third, behind Switzerland and Singapore. Finland, a strong socialist nation, has a literacy rate of 100% They have one of the highest standards of living, and were rated by Time Magazine as one of the best nations in the world.



    Truthfully, I am tired of people on the right bashing socialism and confusing socialism with communism.

    Here is a comparison of Communism and Socialism, and a comparison of Capitalism and Socialism:


    I found this quote. Do you agree with it?

    “The basic and crucial political issue of our age is: capitalism versus socialism, or freedom versus statism. For decades, this issue has been silenced, suppressed, evaded, and hidden under the foggy, undefined rubber-terms of “conservatism” and “liberalism” which had lost their original meaning and could be stretched to mean all things to all men.

    “The goal of the “liberals”—as it emerges from the record of the past decades—was to smuggle this country into welfare statism by means of single, concrete, specific measures, enlarging the power of the government a step at a time, never permitting these steps to be summed up into principles, never permitting their direction to be identified or the basic issue to be named. Thus statism was to come, not by vote or by violence, but by slow rot—by a long process of evasion and epistemological corruption, leading to a fait accompli. (The goal of the “conservatives” was only to retard that process.)”

    This quotation is from a book of Ayn Rand. (http://aynrandlexicon.com/lexicon/liberals.html)

    This is what she said about Christ’s sacrifice.

    “Christ, in terms of the Christian philosophy, is the human ideal. He personifies that which men should strive to emulate. Yet, according to the Christian mythology, he died on the cross not for his own sins but for the sins of the nonideal people. In other words, a man of perfect virtue was sacrificed for men who are vicious and who are expected or supposed to accept that sacrifice. If I were a Christian, nothing could make me more indignant than that: the notion of sacrificing the ideal to the nonideal, or virtue to vice. And it is in the name of that symbol that men are asked to sacrifice themselves for their inferiors. That is precisely how the symbolism is used.”

    The lexicon has other quotations from her about various topics.

    I am not sure how much of our thinking is influenced by Ayn Rand, or that even you are aware that you are being influenced by her directly or indirectly. I believe the conservative movement has embraced her philosophy wholeheartedly, and is attempting to spread the gospel, so to speak, of Ayn Rand to the masses.

    On a related note, the number of young adults participating in our labor market is the lowest it has been since 1955.


    • Graham


      A very informative post. According to data I have, the Rockefeller Foundation has proven to be one of the most dangerous. Research the “old boys” statements about what they funded and why. Education is mentioned.

      What Nick Rockefeller told Aaron Russo during a close two year friendship in the late 90’s is even more absurd. Incidentally, if you haven’t realised it already, the “top of the tree elite” relish socialism, communism and marxism. They provide the best systems to control the masses. Exactly what they are doing now on an unprecedented scale. The deceptions are staggering.

      • Gay Veteran

        no, the “top of the tree elite” relish the merger of state and corporate power (in other words, fascism)

      • Jonathan

        Exactly right Graham. You are unplugged from the Matrix. You are looking at life with your eyes open. Please keep spreading the word.

    • Malcolm Reynolds

      “So, no Michael, what is happening is not socialism. It is a takeover of our schools by the corporate conglomerate, and their mission is to create corporate drones.”

      How on Earth did you manage to twist reality to come up with this little gem? How does govt redistributed education (Yea sparky, its socialist style system of education) become a ‘corporate conglomerate’ sponsored debacle?

      • Jonathan

        All of you are very confused, starting with Colin at the top of the pyramid, and working down to Malcom. The discussion epitomizes why the world is helpless to stop what is happening before our very eyes: namely, the enslavement of mankind under a global government of wealthy humanist elites who have control of the world capital in the global banking establishment.

        Colin, what Ayn Rand thinks about Christ’s sacrifice is irrelevant to 99.9999999 percent of the world’s population. Why don’t you tell me what Ayn Rand thinks about peanut butter and jelly sandwiches? That would be more useful to me, because I might not be making them as well as she did. But I don’t need to know what she thinks about Christianity.

        All of you here seem to think that capitalism and socialism are two ends of the economic scale. They are not. Capitalism is a natural human market activity that transcends human design; it just IS. Capitalism always exists, with varying amounts of regulation imposed on it by men.

        Socialism effects capitalism rather radically. Socialism is an all-embracing philosophy designed by men to do a lousy job of turning nature upside down, in the service of utopian delusions financed by the global banking shadow government.

        These bankers are capitalists of course. But they want all the rest of us to be socialists. It’s a beautiful system, this tyranny they’ve built.

        Colin, socialism and communism are not unrelated, as you seem to believe. There is no “Difference” between them. One is a road to the destination of the other. And you’re a Marxist either way.

  • Buzzy Watts

    Do consider also that many of these young people are actually there to take care of their parents. Older people can’t get a job either.

  • William

    When I was still 21 years of age, I was a college graduate with a Bachelor’s degree. a commissioned officer in the US Navy, and in Vietnam as a volunteer. What has happenedto the gene pool??? Most of the crybaby woosies are so spoiled and dumb, they could not get a job making tootsie rolls.

  • Steve Smithson

    I am an electrician. I make 35 dollars an hour after 34 years. No school tells kids to study and be an electrician. No school tells kids to study to be a car mechanic. The schools drop vocational programs to ramp up other programs. They push sports the most. They dummy down the academics so the minorities won’t look so bad. If you don’t get 95 percent, you don’t get an A. Stop sugar coating the problem. If minorities can’t compete, they can’t compete. Stop filling their heads with the idea that “sports” is their only way out.
    We have 10 million illegals in the US. That is 5 million more jobs. I could go on for hours.

    • Graham


      Electricians have been raking in up to £2,000 (GBP) a week in London. Joiners and plumbers are not far behind. In comparison, a number of lawyers I know in Scotland have seen their earnings drop from £90,000+ per annum to £30,000. Many lawyers are also now out of work.

      The tradition trades are clearly in huge demand and apprenticeships have once again become popular due to shortages across the board. Is there a similar pattern in the US? What about Canada.. anybody?

      • Tina

        Yes, we are seeing increased demand for the hard occupations (thank God) across the board: electricians, car mechanics, Heating-A/C repair people…FARMERS.

        These made-up financial jobs have led us to perdition. The banks are laying off people; lawyers not doing well either, here in the U.S.

    • Rhynn

      Funny, as a minority, I grew up with my dad, born in ’35 telling me that when he was in school, the ONLY thing he was told he could look forward to being was an auto mechanic.

      Look, one can pretend history doesn’t exist or count all one wants. The fact of the matter is, non-minorities aren’t doing any better than minorities right now and instead are putting all of that toilet paper that used to be waved around and called “statistical proof of superiority” to a bad end.

      If you want to get to what’s really happening, look at the arrogant dismissals Gen Y gave older generations when the concepts of traditional and successful business were introduced to their IPO addled start-up companies. The principles that built this country, and the people who upheld those principles, were considered dinosaurs who got in the way of cool ideas by 20 somethings that swore they knew it all. Well? They didn’t. And after all of their Cool Stories and even cooler sounding business plans went rancid, there simply wasn’t any follow through, demonstrated job skill, or definitive results.

      Just a “You mad bro?” Well, yes. Now that you mention it. People have come to their senses and remembered that value on the floor is worth 10 times value on paper, and theory doesn’t grow business like profits do.

      Rather than take that to heart, young people have decided to chain themselves to trees and miss a few meals while waving picket signs around. What’s happened next should be no surprise. And their offspring can hardly be expected to be “rally monkeys” can they?


    … I’ve said this before ; the kids need to join the military machine and learn to be citizens for the first time ! We are the greatest country on earth and need to go back to the tried and true …

    • Graham


      Sounds similar to what would have been said in Rome, Turkey and Britian many years ago. Train to kill and become the greatest! Sorry to blow your bubble, but the show may almost be over for American Imperialism, which is clearly being bankrolled by fiat money and China.

      Enjoy the ride whilst the “Empire of the City” still exists. It includes Washington DC, Corporation of London and Vatican City. It’s amazing what they keep suppressed, yet have made most of the people believe.

      What if China or some Asian continent is saying the same to its kids? Will they invade your shores, then hear on their own media that the “insurgents” are causing strategic ground attack problems? The insurgents of course being Americans trying to protect their sovereign lands.

      What a warped world we live in. Do speak to your “natives” about their history before my country sailed in and pillaged them. Savages my foot. Yeah, we muttered the same crap after arriving in Australia and elsewhere. Grand Britianna became no more, just like the rest. The American experiment is complete. Now watch your sovereignty being eroded as they prepare to empower the UN further, before the great “Revealing”. Like it or not, that’s the plan.

      Wakey wakey, rise and shine!

      • Rufus T Firefly

        Were you born a moron or did you work to become one?

        • Graham


          Assuming your “post” has been directed at me, the following may help.

          In a world where everything has been conveniently reversed, the answer has to be both. That should save you from asking again. I realise in today’s world of superiority and outright egotism, history is lucky to survive any more than two weeks. What I wrote is relative.

          Only a moron would look back any further and recognise that lessons are rarely (if ever) learned. Hope this clarifies your apparent issue. The first form of defence is usually attack and it often arises through ignorance. You were obviously unable to join the dots. What part don’t you understand?

          • Graham



            (Only a moron could make such a spelling error).

  • Graham

    A great read:-

    Anonymous Judge Blows the Whistle:
    America is nothing more than a large Plantation and ‘We the People’ are the Slaves. The Vatican-Led Illuminati Matrix and U.S. Constitution.


    [First post here and completely “off topic” as usual. However, some will undoubtedly join the dots and see its mind expanding relevance].

    The Truth Wins? Sounds like the place to be. How close to the truth can one go? Where does the line get drawn? Any agenda’s restricting content? Can we discuss openly the volcanic topic of “Zionism”? What about the latters bizarre “off world” beliefs that happen to align with Scientology?

  • Michael

    Reminder: The Feast of Trumpets starts at sundown on Sunday.

    All of God’s festivals were designed to be dress rehearsals that were prophetic of future events.

    In the case of the Feast of Trumpets, it has been foreshadowing one of the most dramatic moments in human history for over 3000 years….

    Matthew 24:29-31

    29 Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken:

    30 And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.

    31 And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other.

    1 Corinthians 15:51-53

    51 Behold, I shew you a mystery; We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed,

    52 In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed.

    53 For this corruptible must put on incorruption, and this mortal must put on immortality.

    1 Thessalonians 4:16-17

    16 For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first:

    17 Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.

    • NorthernCanuck

      No ‘secret, silent Rapture’ in those quotes, Michael. Christ has sat down at the right hand of the Father to come ONCE more for those who look for His appearing. It will be the noisiest and most public event imaginable. Those Christians who have been fooled by Dispensationalism into believing that they will just be ‘whisked away’ from the tribulation that is coming had better read their New Testaments again, this time without viewing it through the spectacles of Schofieldism. Believers are promised suffering not a secret, silent elevator service to Heaven; they are called to be ‘good soldiers of Christ Jesus’, and not escape artists. Time to manfully stand and to fight this generation’s battles against evil just as previous generations of Christians fought ignorance, disease, child labour and slavery.

      • Michael

        Please don’t assume that I said anything beyond what I stated in my comment. 🙂


        • NorthernCanuck

          Sorry, Michael, if I created the wrong impression – my posting wasn’t intentionally aimed at you 🙂

  • Graham


    Are the Nephilm returning? Annunaki? Draco’s? All the conspiracy about a rogue planet revisiting our solar system may be true then? Is this why we are seeing many extinct and dormant volcanoes coming to life, plus swarms of earthquakes almost daily? Many being reported “initially” as 7-8’s, prior to USGS downgrading. Unfortunately some of the astronomers and scientists got fired for speaking out re certain observations they made. Smoking too much whacko?

    Is this why a top Pentagon advisor appeared on the Australian mainstream news on Easter Sunday stating they were preparing for a possible Alien invasion? It would certainly explain all the fear mongering tactics and constantly showing the same attack movies over again and again in the US and UK. How many alien invasion type movies have they released in the past 18 months? Programming fear as usual?

    So.. the ancient Gods are returning. The Illuminati must be delighted. The Scientologists too. As they say, it’s all in the DNA, of which 99% is anything but junk, as was claimed for years. Suppression, yet again?

    The “Rapture”? Apparently that “vision” originally arose from a 15 year old mental patient in the City of Glasgow, Scotland many moons ago and she relayed her “vision” to a local Priest. Can anybody confirm such a story? Is the “rapture” mentioned anywhere in the bible, scrolls or texts?

    • NorthernCanuck

      Here’s your answer on the ‘Rapture’ theory:

      “The Beginnings of the Doctrine

      The result of a careful investigation into the origin of the Rapture was published in 1976. This was in an excellent research book that deserves to be read by all people interested in the subject. Its title: The Unbelievable Pre-Trib Origin by Dave MacPherson. 3 He catalogs a great deal of historical material that answers the doctrine’s mysterious derivation. I wish to review the results of his research.

      In the middle 1820’s a religious environment began to be established among a few Christians in London, England which proved to be the catalyst from which the doctrine of the Rapture emerged. Expectations of the soon coming of our Lord were being voiced. This was no new thing, but what was unusual was the teaching by a Presbyterian minister named Edward Irving that there had to be a restoration of the spiritual gifts mentioned in 1 Corinthians chapters 12–14 just before Christ’s Second Advent. To Irving, the time had come for those spiritual manifestations to occur. Among the expected gifts was the renewal of speaking in tongues and of prophetic utterances motivated by the spirit.

      Irving began to propagate his beliefs. His oratorical skills and enthusiasm caused his congregation in London to grow. Then a number of people began to experience the “gifts.” Once this happened, opposition from the organized churches set in. It resulted in Irving’s dismissal from the Presbyterian Church in 1832. His group established themselves as the Catholic Apostolic Church and continued the teachings of Irving. These events were the beginnings of what some call present day Pentecostalism. Some church historians referred to Irving as “the father of modern Pentecostalism.”

      What does this have to do with the origin of the Rapture doctrine? Look at what happened in the year 1830 — two years before Irving’s dismissal from the Presbyterian Church. In that year a revival of the “gifts” began to be manifested among some people living in the lowlands of Scotland. They experienced what they called the outpouring of the Spirit. It was accompanied with speak­ing in “tongues” and other charismatic phenomena. Irving preached that these things must occur and now they were.

      On one particular evening, the power of the Holy Spirit was said to have rested on a Miss Margaret Macdonald while she was ill at home. She was dangerously sick and thought she was dying. In spite of this (or perhaps because she is supposed to have come under the “power” of the spirit) for several successive hours she experienced manifestations of “mingled prophecy and vision.” She found her mind in an altered state and began to experience considerable visionary activity.

      The message she received during this prophetic vision convinced her that Christ was going to appear in two stages at His Second Advent, and not a single occasion as most all people formerly believed. The spirit emanation revealed that Christ would first come in glory to those who look for Him and again later in a final stage when every eye would see Him. This visionary experience of Miss Macdonald represented the prime source of the modern Rapture doctrine as the historical evidence compiled by Mr. MacPherson reveals.
      The Influence of John Darby

      Many people have thought that John Darby, the founder of the Plymouth Brethren, was the originator of the Rapture doctrine. This is not the case. Darby was a brilliant theologian with outstanding scholarly abilities. Even those who disagreed with his teachings admit that he, and many associated with him, helped cause a revival in biblical learning throughout the evangelical world which has perpetuated down to the present day. All who love biblical research ought to be thankful for what Darby and especially his associates accomplished for biblical scholarship. These early men helped pave the way particularly for the renewal of modern lexical studies in the biblical languages.

      This renewal of language studies was not the only thing they produced. The doctrine of “dispensationalism” was also a teaching they brought to the attention of the Protestant world. And then, there was this new doctrine termed the “Rapture.” While many Christians long thought the Rapture doctrine originated with John Darby, it is now known that this was not true. Darby did popularize it. Scofield and others took it over. But Darby provided the intellectual mantle that helped make it respectable. Many of those in the evangelical sphere of Christianity today are so certain of its veracity that it is accepted as the absolute truth of God. The fact is, however, John Darby received the knowledge of the doctrine from someone else. His source was Margaret Macdonald.

      The studies of Mr. MacPherson show that her sickness during which she received her visions and revelations occurred sometime between February 1 and April 14, 1830. By late spring and early summer of 1830, her belief in the two phases of Christ’s coming was mentioned in praise and prayer meetings in several towns of western Scotland. In these meetings some people were speaking in “tongues” and other charismatic occurrences were in evidence. Modern “Pentecostalism” had its birth.

      These extraordinary and strange events so attracted John Darby that he made a trip to the area to witness what was going on. Though he did not approve of the ecstatic episodes that he witnessed, it is nonetheless significant that Darby, after returning from Scotland, began to teach that Christ’s Advent would occur in two phases. MacPherson shows good evidence that Darby even visited Miss Macdonald in her home. There can hardly be any doubt that the visions and spiritual experiences of Miss Macdonald are the source of the modern doctrine. But belief in such paranormal experiences is dangerous, especially when they are contrary to scriptural teachings.”

      See full, informative article at: ‘The Rapture Theory – Its Surprising Origin’

      • Graham


        Many thanks for a fully detailed answer. You certainly know your history and facts. Are you by any chance Scottish Canadian? It may well be that “Miss Margaret Macdonald” was the person I read about that was in Glasgow at that time. The stories appear to tie in very accurately. It also appears that she may have been experiencing a “Kundalini” awakening.

        If you are not up on meditation, I refer to the energy that arises through the 7 chakras from the base of the spine. Many bible references relate to what this energy does, especially in the crown chakra. It is well documented that “Christ” travelled through India and is referenced in their own sacred materials. This period accounts for his “missing years” in the bible.

        The word “prayer” replaced “meditation” in the New Testament. The reasons are profound and perhaps only a meditator would fully understand why. I refer to the “Christ Consciousness” that every being can experience.

      • That is absolutely fantastic Canuck. Thank you! If you can believe it, it took about 3 years of being around “church people” before the subject of the rapture ever even came up (they were for the motion picture version) but it only took about three days for the scriptures to start popping holes. I’d read the rumors of it’s origination, but this is wonderful.

      • Gary2

        The only rapture is the song by Blondie. There is no magic vacuum cleaner that jesus is gonna vacuum you up with. Please start practicing critical thinking.

      • Gay Veteran

        “…The studies of Mr. MacPherson show that her sickness during which she received her visions and revelations….”

        the hot sun hath made many a preacher

  • Dave Webb

    I believe it says in the Bible that children should stay in their parent’s home and under their guidance until they get married.
    The current economic situation only makes that advice more realistic in today’s world.
    I think it should be against the law for children to take on huge unpayable debts for education or any thing else. At 18, most children are only partially grown up. Your voice never completely matures until you get past 30. Children in the 18-25 year bracket are legally adults. But many lack the maturity to know what will make them happy. Yet they marry, some live together and even have children without marriage, they are in a very unstable time of life. Auto Insurance is a good example of how risky it is to be in that age bracket. This is the time when most people set the foundations for the rest of their lives.
    Tihs is the time when men should be looking to their future. These men should be looking towards being able down the road to support a family. Many intelligent men go into different skilled trades. But what do our schools teach them? Go to College! Yet without a profession to aim at, college is a very bad joke that ends in jobs that do not pay enough to support a family.
    This is the time to decide who you want in your life. It is the time when you must make decisions that will effect how you live the rest of your life. Making a wrong mate decision at this time can ruin 15 to 20 years of your life. Especially if you have children together and then one mate or the other suddenly decides to leave.
    Children are not wiser than their parents in most cases. Been there, done that, don’t want to do it again. If I had it to do over . . .
    Older wiser heads might have prevailed with me. Then I wouldn’t have gone through a kind of hell for about 10 years of my life. And I was one of the lucky ones. I came back from Service during the Vietnam Conflict. 10 of my best friends in service did not. I came back and lived for a couple of years with my parents. I gave them rent though it was a token more than rent. I got into an apprenticeship in printing, following my father’s trade. I listened very closely to my parent’s advise and it payed off. I was blessed in many ways. But even as an adult, and I was definitely a man when I came home, I obeyed my Father. I humbled myself and learned. I followed their direction in most things. The things I didn’t follow their direction in eventually got me in financial trouble. I married the wrong person and paid a heavy price for it.
    Yet I too wanted independence. Knowing what I do now, I would have been much more cautious about a lot of things.
    This living with parents means following their direction for your lives. That is not a bad thing.
    We will look back on these times as the “good old days” when we had $4 gasoline and numerous other things. We will look ar food prices and shake our heads somewhere down the road.
    Sometimes blessings come in strange ways. Often what seems bad luck is really good luck in disguise. You are financially broke. You have to live at home. Take the blessings with the curses. You have an opportunity to return the many things your parents have given you by helping whenever you can and however you can. Give respect to your parents and it will be returned to you hundreds of times over. Remember, it is like the layers of a cake. Grand parents are the top layer, then your parents, then you! Each generation eventually passes away. You have the opportunity to be close to those who loved you and helped you grow up. That is a blessing. Instead you could be out there working 50 hours a week and be too tired to enjoy what time they have left with you.
    The good book says, To everything there is a time, and to everything there is a place. Now might be the time to roll with punches and take the blessings given to you in these times.
    My advice is find something you love to do. Then go do it and the hell with finances. Eventually the finances will be there for you. What is more important you will have done something you love to work at instad of something that is a form of slavery.

    • splashy

      Women mature past 30. It takes men until we are 40ish.

  • Gary2

    Michael–Aren’t you being a bit risk kay putting a picture of you sleeping on your blog??

    Tell me you are wearing PJ’s.

    • Gary2

      I thought you would have space invaders sheets.

  • Graham

    FAO NorthernCanuck:-

    Can you put your research abilities to the test and find any history relating to the “US Consulate in Benghazi”, PRIOR to the reported attacks. As I don’t see you active on “The American Dream” site (another of Michael’s), this seems to be the best/only place to get your attention.

    After spending over an hour searching everywhere for the existence of this Consulate in Libya, I cannot find any reference to it anywhere. I have also searched “within” two years worth of documents at the US State Department and cannot find any reference to it there either.  Am I missing something?

    (Rufus:- Stayed tuned, I may now be “proven” to be a “moron”)

    1) http://www.usembassy.gov

    2) http://www.embassypages.com/libya#otherin

    3) http://embassy.goabroad.com/embassies-in/libya#

    • NorthernCanuck

      No problem, here you go…

      “3/10/2010 Benghazi Consular Visit

      U.S. Embassy Tripoli Warden Message-Benghazi American Citizen Services Consular Visit

      March 10, 2010

      This warden message announces a routine consular visit to Benghazi on March 12, 2010.

      The U.S. Embassy invites American citizens living in eastern Libya to Benghazi’s Tibesti Hotel conference room on Friday, March 12 from 7-9pm for an open house. During this period, limited consular services will be available to include Consular Reports of Birth Abroad and passport processing, and some notarial services. No visa processing will be available at that time. We request that any interested visitors research the fees and necessary documents on our website and bring exact change (in dinars) and copies of all documents for processing. First come, first served!

      The Consular Section of the U.S. Embassy is located in the Ben Ashour neighborhood on Jeraba Street behind the former Libyan-Swiss Clinic. Our phone numbers are 091-379-4560 during business hours or 091-366-2696 (after-hours number for emergencies involving American citizens only).

      Americans traveling abroad should regularly monitor the U.S. Embassy’s website and the U.S. Department of State Bureau of Consular Affairs’ website, where the current Worldwide Caution, Travel Warnings, and Travel Alerts can be found. The U.S. Embassy also encourages U.S. citizens to review “A Safe Trip Abroad,” which includes valuable security information for those both residing and traveling abroad. U.S. citizens may also call the Office of Overseas Citizens Services in the United States for the latest travel information. The Office of Overseas Citizens Services can be reached from 8:00 a.m. until 8:00 p.m. Eastern Daylight Time, Monday through Friday, by calling 1-888-407-4747 from within the United States and Canada, or by calling (202) 501-4444 from other countries.”

  • Resurrection-311

    In other times, there where multigenerations homes and that wasn´t such a big deal.

    When the baby boomers came to the workforce, that had become easy and it certainly contributed to the split of generations of that time.

    Now, as they are starting to leave the workforce, it has become an unaffordable luxury. Pensions have already been spe…. wasted by treacherous governements on their heinous beliefs not just in the US but in many other countries of the west and won´t be financed for much longer, while savings are gnawed by inflation every single day.

  • Glorious Hopetopia

    Why? Made in China.

  • Marilyn

    Catholicism Invented the Rapture? C’mon!

    Many web sites claim that a 16th century Jesuit Catholic priest named Francisco Ribera taught an early form of the famous evangelical “rapture” that reportedly precedes and is disconnected from the final Second Coming.
    To see the actual thrust of this claim, Google “Francisco Ribera taught a rapture 45 days before the end of Antichrist’s future reign.”
    But no one ever quotes even one sentence from Ribera’s monumental commentary on the Book of Revelation which is said to be the source of the 45-day rapture claim.
    Claimants are challenged to produce Ribera’s own words on this matter. If they cannot, their names should be blazoned on the web as hysterical historians! (BTW, no other Catholic leader, including Jesuit priest Manuel Lacunza, has ever taught a prior rapture.)
    Curious about the real beginnings of the same mystical “fly-away” belief (a.k.a. the “pre-tribulation rapture”) that has captivated many evangelical leaders including Darby, Scofield, Lindsey, Falwell, LaHaye, and Hagee? Google “Pretrib Rapture Dishonesty.”
    [above seen on the net – most interesting]

  • Michael (Australia)

    There is also cultural & religious reasons. Adults at home in most of The world (non-Anglo Saxon nations)is not a shame but the proper way it should be. We were created to be in families, not single. So if you are not married into a new family, you stay with the “old family”, but not single. When parents get old, is it good to dump your parents in a nursing home? This is shock horror to cultures that have strong family ties.There are good & bad points in both systems (Anglo and non Anglo). So we should not see adults at home as a bad thing, only bad if it is on a large scale. Remember older cultures have done it this way and flourished, not decaying like modern culture.

  • Hey, this has been going on for almost 100 years, folks! Even the so-called “conservatives” here writing articles on “Truth” are acting like we’re “on our way” to decline. We’re THERE!!! Like the proverbial frog in the hot water, each generation for along time now has thought his generation was “conservative”, while God was being kicked out of the public sphere, our way of life degenerated from valuing good character to valuing good looks, and Hollywood became our measure of good living instead of holiness. Give me a break. This didn’t happen overnight, for crying out loud-remember the “roaring ’20’s”? Gangsters, communism, “free” love, etc? And parents have been indulging their kids for the past 80 years, raising them to be “happy”, not responsible. Living at home is not the problem, IF you’re a fully contributing member and not married, but that’s usually NOT the case-that’s another American elite lie, to get you on your own so that more money is spent to live “independently”. Living at home isn’t the problem, living as an adult child is, and there are plenty of those out there, “living on their own.” It proves my point that in 2012, “Truth” believes and touts this stupidity that somehow if you have your own apartment you’re a blessing to society. Staying with a family group, and CONTRIBUTING MEANINGFULLY, is more responsible than just living for yourself, and it saves money. The elite ruling this country want us out there alone, spending what we don’t have to support the “poor” merchandisers who need your money to “give us jobs”. What a crock, and the saddest thing is the most oppressed people don’t even see it! Even the church has sold out, providing entertainment (“services”) and demanding money to “save your soul”. Americans now prefer to be sheep, robbed blind and told what to do-as long as they can have their TV shows, beer, and handouts-and that includes “corporate welfare”. We deserve what’s coming down the pike-its been a long time coming. C’mon, “Truth”, stop peddling corporate lies.

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